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[mtlsapu]

Even as a libertarian, I've never thought of a vote as a possession, least of all one that can be sold. It's an interesting concept, to be sure, but I do not completely agree. If votes are being sold, then of course some group will buy as many as possible, and then the votes of the general population will mean less than they mean now.

[BONGGLOK]

Penn, this is absurd. You cant sell your rights because you cant give up your rights. They are inalienable - even by you.

[MrCactopuss]

how can we have fair elections if people can just buy votes

[stickerartone]

50 bucks!

[AlgeKalipso]

I admire Penn on some things, but he just made an overgeneralization on the grounds of a common way of describing ownership. You can justify any opinion if you overgeneralize the application of a freely chosen rule of behavior.

[scorpionfights]

disagreed.

[Watcher3223]

@ChadSmith1452

So, you either let the government make laws without considering those who will be affected, which makes it authoritarian.

Or you allow the government to intervene and allow representation which can give rise to corporatism.

Or the government stays out and intervenes ONLY towards the pursuit of justice when a company breaks the law.

As for "high comedy," maybe you can try and RESPECT differing opinion rather than ridicule it.

[Watcher3223]

As for how companies can influence elections and the government, it's because the government butts into their affairs with misguided intent.

The problem with a government trying to intervene is that the government outside of a law enforcement role is that it cannot do it without allowing those that will be affected to have their say about it; it's called representation.

But, this dialogue is what lets companies influence government because the intervention provides a way in.

[Watcher3223]

'As if there were such thing as ethical corporations'

Then what makes a company unethical?

To me, it's a company that doesn't earn its profit fairly, such as providing exactly what the customer wants and at a price the customer is willing to pay.

A company is unethical if they cheat the customer.

I'll hazard a guess that YOUR definition of what makes a company "unethical" is that if it merely makes a profit.

[ChadSmith1452]

@Watcher3223

"...the less ethical companies..."

High comedy. As if there were such thing as ethical corporations, or that it is only the less ethical among them that attempt influence elections and government policy (and not inidentally, frequently succeed).

[ChadSmith1452]

@mtlsapu

I have to wonder whether Penn didn't think of this(?!) or finds it perfectly acceptable(?!).

Both possibilities are equally ignominious.