When Atheism Becomes Religion: Americas New Fundamentalists (1/2)

Thom challenges author Chris Hedges, Senior Fellow at the Nation Institute www.thenation.com. Check out http://www.thomhartmann.com.

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[FUCKYOURGODINTHEASS]

@17R3W

A federal court also says that tomatoes are vegetables, allowing them to be taxed as such. Does this somehow change the fact that tomatoes are actually a fruit?

No it doesn't. And atheism still isn't a religion.

[Dcapd]

Christianity is one woman's lie about an affair that was taken FAR to seriously...

[flensdude]

@Dcapd Haha, I wonder if that is how it actually came to be. Fact is, the chances for this to be true are much higher than that of this story of the Bible being true itself.

[n52nimbus]

But if this "Christian" doesn't believe in Revelation or eternal life, etc., then he isn't really a Christian. He's just a guy who likes all the really cool passages in the Bible, like all sane folks.

[squeezycheeseypeas]

When will christians realise that atheism is the opposite of religion

[psusac]

As an Atheist, Hedges gets me completely wrong. I speak out against faith because It's a limited strategy for deciding what's true, not because I think that my beliefs are the culmination of some moral good.

[logicbranch]

well that's the first time I've ever heard the new atheists called anti-intellectual. Guys like Hitchens and Harris can quote scripture, including the Koran, better than all but the most studious ministers and Muslims.

[cnt66]

Belief without sufficient evidence is fundamentalism.

Not believing in something that does not have any evidence, and telling others it is ridiculaus, is not fundamentalism. That is a thinking process.

This word twisting with fundamentalism comes from the closet religous.

[SelfAware1]

@bcn533 exactley!!!!!!!! thank you for saying it so well! All we want is for religious ideas to be treated like all other ideas (with evidence for their claims), it is not to persecute believers or eliminate them! that is an absurd notion!

[SelfAware1]

fundementalism to me is the resistance of new evidence, and the "new atheists" also known as "atheists" are not fundemental by any means. passionatly having a position, defending it, and showing evidence for it is the opposite of fundementalism. I think Hedges is off base here making a false equivoloncy, and attacking the atheists movement for the sake of attacking it.

[enigmism4life]

I don't think atheists nor the christian right unequivocally believes in linear moral progress. Revelations and the missionaries at my door put forth a vision of end times as a world rocked by strife, moral decay and worldwide catastrophe, almost celebrating these conditions. Atheists may quote how biblical morality, as in leviticus, is morally reprehensible to modernity, and they are right in certain cases. But that doesn't mean they believe in all of modern culture and morality as better.

[enigmism4life]

I usually like thom but this old argument that atheism is a religion is really pointless semantics. It can easily be shown as the opposite, I agree with him about the mysterious, the numinous, all that we don't know, he is ascribing beliefs to atheism that it does not contain.