Is The Book of Mormon False?
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@awolLDSasap You need to read the entire reply I made, not just the parts you agree with. Further, if you wish to debate the points made, you will have to debate those whom I quoted, not me.
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@awolLDSasap Heirs, and Joint-heirs, not sub-heirs. We gain all that Jesus gained from His Father, who is our Father.
Second, you are using that scripture out of context.
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@awolLDSasap Anyway, at least read all of my reply, because I cover this.
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@awolLDSasap Well, then you need to debate the scholars awol, not me.
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I did read all of the comments but haven't had time to respond.. My grandson has been taking over the computer and commenting on my youtube account. I hope people don't get the wrong idea, he's only 6.. I don't believe joint heirs is saying that men will be given thrones. It is Jesus who will be praised and given the crowns of kings.
awolLDSasap 1 week ago
@awolLDSasap Well again awol, if you don't agree with the definition of "hiers and joint-heirs" then your argument is not with me, but with the original writer Paul. Unfortunately for you and your fellow critics, a review of Christian history illustrates that this doctrine was and is a common belief of many Christians; modern critics are perhaps the exception, rather than the rule. Saint Irenaeus, who may justly be called the first Biblical theologian
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M424Filmcast 1 week ago
@awolLDSasap (cont.) among the ancient Christians, was a disciple of the great Polycarp, who was a direct disciple of John the Revelator. Would you listen to him? After all, he learned directly from one of the Twelve. Irenaeus is not a heretic or unorthodox in traditional Christian circles, yet he shares a belief in theosis: While man gradually advances and mounts towards perfection; that is, he approaches the eternal.
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M424Filmcast 1 week ago
@awolLDSasap (cont.) The eternal is perfect; and this is God. Man has first to come into being, then to progress, and by progressing come to manhood, and having reached manhood to increase, and thus increasing to persevere, and persevering to be glorified, and thus see his Lord.
M424Filmcast 1 week ago
We will be joint heirs, not exalted to Godly thrones. Josephs exaltation of man doctrine is assumption. There are no Biblical verse saying that men will become Gods. 1Cr 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
awolLDSasap 1 week ago
@awolLDSasap My reply to your previous comment demonstrates that theosis has been taught by many Christians through the centuries. They pulled these beliefs from the Bible itself. I can provide much more than this along with references for each quote if you would like. Sorry awol, but your own people taught the same things we teach now. Unfortunately, the reformationists decided on political correctness over true doctrine. Another important reason for the Restoration.
M424Filmcast 1 week ago