The Four Horsemen: Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Hitchens (7/12)

Well, George Orwell already came up with the perfect catchphrase for what... The old beardy guy was talking about.

It's called Doublethink.

i think most people are just retareded to the main facts and tedius rules that religion has mainly christians casue i know my fellow americans or most just go to go or just plain lazy to read the bible over and over to understand it...but then when we attack them or they get all ryeld up from a preist it just hits mob mentality and then you see anger taking over not the smarts so we can get these fukers on board its just we have to really educate them reall good first lol....

Hour 2. - Love it. All glasses filled with scotch, or martinis. so refreshing to have an honest discussion among thoughtful people who have the god-blessed ( ;-) attribute of free thought.

me too. fear of eternal damnation is a bitch, but getting over it is liberation.

The idea of a loving God is very comfortable to many people - which can be especially consoling in troubled times (i.e. everything happens for a reason). Unfortunately many people are feeble and cannot deal with the fact that their lives have no meaning.

It's not a deterministic fact in need of dealing with in the first place.The existence of some deity,or absence of same need not be the linchpin on which turns fulfillment of desired secular purpose in ANY given Life.

djnross:

I was referring to a supernatural purpose in my last comment. Of course people have earthly purposes: the purpose of brushing your teeth is to avoid cavities, etc. Where I disagree is when people say they were "put on earth for a purpose/reason"; which implies their actions while on Earth serve a higher power.

Supernature being a fiction,there can be no other purpose(s) than those chosen by a sentient adult.The Genesis edict 'to multiply,be fruitful and become many'is but the biological directive of all organic Life,certainly not restricted to humans.

that could be considered the definition of addiction. a mental or physical need to cope with life. religion falls under that just as much as drugs or love or whatever you want to put there that people are addicted to. to me religion is a drug that people are addicted to. the troubling fact of this is only about 5 to 10 percent of people recover from there addictions.

It would also be a miracle if it stayed full ;)