The Supernatural is Fake

This is in response to bluefirewitch question about supernatural occurrences.

I believe you are correct in your assumption that it is not just delusions. There are other explanations for these events. There is a great book entitled "Unweaving the Rainbow" by Richard Dawkins. In it he explains how our brains are wired to look for patterns. This helped us evolve and see cause and effect. An unfortunate side effect is seeing false patterns and false cause and effect.

In your example where a mother wakes suddenly in the middle of the night for no reason, then the next day finds out that her daughter was in a car accident that night. This is nothing more than a coincidence.

As the population of the world increases, the probability of coincidences increases. There is also a lack of accuracy is these events too that people over look. If I dream my dog dies. Then wake up the next day and she is alive. No one says anything. What if she dies the next day or a week from now, how about in exactly one month? Where does it stop being a supernatural event? Déjà vu falls into this category.

Another explanation is hoaxes. Lots of people claim to see ghost. Most pictures and videos of ghost have been shown to be hoaxes, or just dust in front of the camera. By the way, why are ghost always wearing clothes in these pictures?

Some people are fooled by what they see. Our eyes can play tricks on us, especially at night. There are stories of ghost crossing a road at night. Then we find it is just the headlights reflecting off the wet road on to the fog.

Delusions are not the only explanation. There are hoaxes, coincidences, false patterns, and ours eyes playing tricks on us. These all help explain why there are so many claims of supernatural events. Next time you hear of one, try to figure out which category explains it.

Have a nice night.

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[xXShade725Xx]

To go one step further, who is to say that one of these alternate realities doesn't interfere with ours on a rudimentary level and somehow use it's physics to connect conciseness in our reality to each other. In other words, why can't telepathic bonds exist. We used to think the world was flat... It's not. Science can be unproven and reinstated as "fact" at any time, because the world is not black and white, to think so is literally ignorant, AKA a lack of knowledge.

[xXShade725Xx]

All of these are good explanations, but you missed one. The lack of omniscience in humans. We used to think that many things were impossible, but science is ever growing. Just because it is unexplained doesn't mean that it can't exist. Maybe closed-mindedness is the wrong way to go about thing sometimes? I used to think that antimatter alternate realities couldn't exist, but now, scientists consider it plausible all around the globe!

[Deathstarcommand]

I mean, sure, it could be a shadow, or a car light, I wont deny that. I will go as far to admit that all pictures of ghosts we currently have could be fake, as ignorant as that is. But like I said, tech is the only way we see ghosts properly. As tech evolves, this argument will evolve, and ghosts will become absurd to deny, not to mention that your precious science is what showed you the damn ghost!

[Deathstarcommand]

This is all just in my mind, eh? Well, explain why if I take a picture of a ghost I created in my mind, and show you it, you'll see it? Does that make you crazy too? If so, why should I listen to you? You're crazy! Everyones crazy then! And it inverts on itself and makes itself invalid. So, we move on to a hoax, or some natural phenomenon. It eventually becomes absurd to say it's a hoax. "Every single ghost ever is fake" That sounds absurd to you, don't it. And if science can't explain it...

[Deathstarcommand]

Fact of the matter is, that as we progress, your scientific side will backfire on you, because if a religious man says he saw a ghost, thats easy to dispute. If science directly confirms ghosts, your main argument just went against you. It's basically the same as if we discovered God actually DID exist, and we obtained that knowledge through science. I hope more and more paranormal investigators get out there, with better and better tech, and finally manage to make disbelievers shut the fuck up.

[Deathstarcommand]

There is a point where disbelief is acceptable, like how God could just be a human making, or he could be real, and it's very acceptable to debate that, and when something just becomes absurd to deny.

The Paranormal is something we don't properly understand, like realms or different layers of existence, except, we don't need to be philosophers to see that ghosts are a very real thing. We just don't understand them, and this guy uses our limited understanding and try to make it universal truth.

[Deathstarcommand]

Bullshit. This "Fighting Atheist" is so simple minded. So, If I believe in science and the big bang and everything, I can't believe in ghosts? It's just simply "Invalid" because this guy says so? Okay, so, now aliens don't exist. Oh wait, now every single thing that happens that humans can't explain is just Invalid. Nope, didn't happen. That face in the window was photoshopped, you don't live after death because I say so, I have all the authority.

No, wait, he's a Youtube troll. HE'S invalid.

[owlthoughts]

My mom said she saw Jesus when she was young; she was also a victim of years of physical abuse and neglect, where her mother would starve her for weeks. I think this would fall under the hallucination category.

[1tabligh]

Thus, the removal of God in no way solves the problem posed by eternal being.

Moreover, matter is the locus for motion and change, and its motion is dynamic and situated within its own essence. Now, essential motion is incompatible with eternity, and matter and essential stability are two mutually exclusive categories that cannot be fused in a single locus.

[1tabligh]

@King..In just the same way that atheist regards matter as eternal, believers in God attribute eternity to God. Belief in an eternal being is then common to materialist and religious philosophers: both groups agree that there is a primary cause, but believers in God regard the primary cause as wise, all-knowing, and possessing the power of decision and will, whereas in the view of the materialists, the primary cause has neither consciousness, intelligence, perception, nor the power of decision.