Simchas Torah in Satmar 06'

Grand Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, Satmar Rebbe, presiding over the celebration of the Biblical Jewish feast of Simchas Torah. Tens of thousands of People attended the Simchas Torah celebration at the Satmar synegogue in Williamsburg.

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[alnarweeg92]

For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! Assemble before me all the elders of your tribes and all your officials, so that I can speak these words in their hearing and call the heavens and the earth to testify against them. For I know that after my death you are sure to become utterly corrupt and to turn from the way I have commanded you. In days to come, D:27:29

[perrik7]

@MacEoin you still dont get it.... Deuteronomy 18:18 is a prophecy (for many centuries later) promise a prophet for the gentile from their own brothers - muhammad.

"good book about tafsir..."? how do you know its a good book? by the picture on the cover? :-)

5 pillars (mainstream) of islam says nothing about the order of the verses... you just invent things as you go along

[MacEoin]

@perrik7 You still don't get it. The Torah doesn't command Muhammad (who lived many centuries later) to do anything. I don't have an imam: I'm not a Muslim, but I used to lecture on Islam at a British university. Get a good book about tafsir and the role of the asbab al-nuzul and how this has allowed all Sunni mutassafirin to identify early and late verses, and then to show which verses abrogate earlier one. This is not sectarian, it's mainstream, and you are just betraying ignorance of Islam.

[perrik7]

@MacEoin God change his mind only in some sects of Islam, in Judaism God words never change.

the torah (Deuteronomy 18:18) command muhammad to write the quran for the gentiles.

God dosnt change his mind like a peddler in the flea market negotiating for price.

The way you and your imam understand the quran is very funny.

you want me to ask your imam?! he dont even know how to interprate hebrew prophets names.

tell your imam that if he have questions he can come and ask me.

[MacEoin]

@perrik7 I'm afraid it is you who don't understand the Qur'an. Ask an imam about naskh/mansukh, the principle that late verses can abrogate/render invalid earlier ones. What God says in the early suras is often contradicted by the verses of later suras. That has been a principle of tafsir since the year dot. It means that what God says is not necessarily 'forever'. God knows that peddlers in flea markets have to do with this.

[perrik7]

@MacEoin Leviticus 26:38 "And ye shall perish among the heathen and the land of your enemies shall eat you up" Leviticus 26:44 "And yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break My covenant with them; for I am the LORD their God. "

you dont understand the quran, Allah is not a peddler in the flea market, when he say something it is forever. The land belongs only to the jews forever.

Peace

[MacEoin]

@perrik7 I have no idea what 'lost in the gentiles' means. The Quranic passages that say the Jews may possess the Holy Land etc. are all early. They have been abrogated by later verses. That is to say, they have been cancelled out, and modern ulama only accept the hateful things the Qur'an and hadith say about them. That is a major problem. And I have never heard of a Muslim converting to Judaism. To do so, he would become an apostate (murtad) and would be subject to the death penalty.

[perrik7]

@MacEoin Allah promise the Jews that many of them will be lost in the gentiles,

but he will never forget that they are the chosen people.

i dont see whats the problem here.

also muslims convert to judaism. so what?

[MacEoin]

@perrik7 In that case, why did Muhammad try to convert the Jews and why was he annoyed when they didn't do so?

[SuperPricil]

Do they believe in Yehoshua ( Jesus) the Messiah ?