1 - LOSING SALVATION: Anthropocentric Fallacy

In this first video, I speak briefly about the man-centered theology of losing salvation. I cannot stress it enough; to claim that man has the authority and power to UNDO the supernatural work of Jesus Christ is a very faulty argument that gives far too much credit to fallible man. A true born again believer cannot lose eternal life because it is not his/hers to undo. To claim that it is possible is to render the work of Christ as useless.

ALSO: I realize that a lot of people misunderstand what i meant by saying that believers are "commandment keeping". When I say "commandment keeping" I'm referring ONLY to the attributes of a true believer. The true believer will keep the commandments of Christ because they are of God. 1 John 3:6-9 & 1 John 5:2-3 solidifies this notion, but for a more in depth explanation, check out this other video.

EVIDENCE of TRUE CONVERSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiMq2hjscxg


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[THERAPTURECOMES]

COMMANDMENT KEEPING? Why did you add that in there if the law cannot save, does this not mean you have just said FOLLOW the LAW????????

[vekl]

@THERAPTURECOMES LOL!!! I realize that a lot of ppl misunderstand what i meant by that. When i say 'commandment keeping' that is referring ONLY to the attributes of a true believer. The true believer will keep the commandments of Christ becuz they are of God. 1 John 3:6-9 &1 john 5:2-3 solidifies this. Also, i give more explanation in the other video. /watch?v=kiMq2hjscxg

[rofyle]

James 2(cont'd): Abraham had already been justified well before he offered his son Isaac up in sacrifice. Take note, nowhere does James say Abraham proved his justification as authentic by offering his son up. Rather, this is something you read into the text. You seize on those words, "faith without works is dead" without taking into consideration the context in which those words appear. Consequently you have James contradicting Paul. You are wrong.

[vekl]

@rofyle I'll be responding to your comments in my next video.

[rofyle]

I addressed all of this in both PM's I sent you. I brought up the flip side of your view, that if works are the evidence of salvation, then failure is the evidence of condemnation. You ignored me.

I brought up David, the fact that he murdered an innocent man and committed adultery with that man's wife. I brought up Peter who denied Christ thrice. I brought up Moses, I brought up Noah, I brought up all these people who failed most miserably, and yet were not condemned. You ignored me.

[vekl]

@rofyle You may have brought up David, Moses and all the other patriarchs, but none of that has any bearing on the postion that you're accusing me of. And furthermore, David showed evidence that he belonged to God, by his PENITENCE and praises to God. AGAIN, if assurance of salvation is the ONLY EVIDENCE of true faith, then prove it based on the context of James 2. And how about that debate??!?!?

[THERAPTURECOMES]

@BornAgain771 Just think, the rapture is about to take place.

[BornAgain771]

@THERAPTURECOMES Amen , My Brother. When We Make Mistake We Are To Correct Ourselves. God Bless You!

[THERAPTURECOMES]

@BornAgain771 Then i do apologize and lets hope a person comes along and sees to believers that reconciled their misunderstanding!

[BornAgain771]

@THERAPTURECOMES My Friend, Does It Looks Like I'm A Hebrew Have You Taken The Time To Check My Channel? I Thought You Meant In That Comment You Paste, That We Are Saved By The Works Of Law. But i was Wrong. And Clearly Romans 10:3,4 Goes Against Professed Christians Who Think That Their Righteousness Would Saved Them. We Are Saved Simply By Grace Through Faith Period. I Miss Understood You I Apologize.

[THERAPTURECOMES]

@BornAgain771 I am not a Hebrew, the law commandments (Law) were never given to me. I am not bound by law in any way shape or form.

I am saved not by the law but by Christ and His shed blood.

Are you Hebrew?

[BornAgain771]

@THERAPTURECOMES True Born Again Christians, Keep His Commandments Because We Love Him, Not Because Keeping His Commandments Saves Us. Salvation Alone Is By Believing And Trusting In Jesus Christ Alone. Doesn't Mean If We Fall We'll Lose Salvation, No. But When We Do Fall Confess Your Sins. We Don't Give Up Our Sins To Be Saved, Rather We Give Up Our Sins Because We Are Saved.

[searchtheoracles]

therby we can serve God willingly and not of necessity. pure and out of love, not out of debt.