Evictionism: Abortion and Libertarianism (Walter Block)
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It's nice to know that with medical advances this will eventually become a non-issue.
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What Pro-Life says is that you can't initiate aggression against the fetus. That is perfectly in line with the non-aggression axiom.
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This is the only via of abortion that makes sense to me. I've always understood both side to argument, but this is what makes sense to me hearing Dr. Block explain it.
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Maybe I glossed over it, but I'm not sure Evictionism solves the question of whether or not a zygote equals a person with the same rights of existing people. Nobody agrees on that premise, and it's the basis of everyone's views. Whether or not it's a person (and not just living cells with potential) is what determines if it's murder or not. One view is that it's a person as soon as meiosis starts, and the other view is that it doesn't make sense for a nonviable zygote to have personhood.
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I would say I am one of the few market anarchists who is pro-life. To those who would say a fetus cannot survive without the mother, I would say that is true of small children, the elderly, and people with mental and/or physical impairments. In all the cases their is usually a caretaker, (though not always) and there is certainly a caretaker in the case of the fetus/mother relationship. Adult women know the risks of having sex. That said, it is a difficult issue for libertarians, for both sides
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@zeo285 I don't think the death penalty can be accurately described as self-defense. If someone is threatening imminent harm, sure. But if they're a captive, or as in Block's example they're on your property but don't pose an imminent threat, use of lethal force on your part would be offensive rather than defensive. Likewise, defense of property is not self-defense. If it was, I could shoot you for leaning on my car in a parking lot.
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@MrAbolitionist good point!
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@natritious1 what if someone puts a newborn on your property? and they obviously lack the mental compatibly to know to leave. Also the fetus was placed in his or her mother's womb by outside forces, not his or her will. Saying that a fetus is an aggressor is like saying a kidnapped victim is breaking and entering.
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@MrAbolitionist If you're on my property and wont leave, say goodnite sucker :0
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@MrAbolitionist Technically, there is no right to life, only a right to not be aggressed against.
Block's is probably trying to please both pro-freedom and pro-slavery 'libertarians' and failing.
Killing is morally wrong - at least that's what libertarians believe. From the moral fact that killing people is wrong it follows that there's such a thing as a right to life.
Why doesn't Block want to shoot a person who enters 'his property' if he doesn't believe in a right to life?
And NAP does not stand for 'right to alienable property' - rather, property rights FOLLOW from the NAP.
verymaddog 2 years ago
I think you've misunderstood libertarianism
It is morally wrong to kill becouse everybody own their own life, it is the person's property.
And libertarianism is based private property rights.
Now taking away some's life is justifided in cases of self defence, we are not pacifist.
Inshort, Killing is not morally wrong, if a person is himself gulity of murder, then it would be justified in killing him.
There is not right to life, only private property rights.
zeo285 2 years ago 4
@zeo285, do libertarians support child support?
wood9670 2 years ago
You mean when parents get devorced, and the Father gives money to the mother?
If its voluntary, Sure! But if some court dicides that he shall pay her, No.
But if a marrige contract says that "In the case of devorice, ___ shall pay___" Well thats a contract and contracts should be enforced.
zeo285 2 years ago