Re: Re: The magnet motor challenge: PART 1

NOTE! This is only part 1. My video was 15:04 long and so part 2 is listed as a video reply to THIS.

Alternatively I might title this "HOW to use a search engine" since it amounts to basic, basic internet education.

It would seem Desertphile and a number of people who have criticized me for saying that magnetic fields contain energy lack the basic ability to use a search engine. Either that, or they were SO confident I was wrong that they didn't bother to try.

So I'm making it easy on you. All you have to do is watch.

As I said in DP's video, the argument he used to 'disprove' DEZZIELIGHTBULB007's "theory" is akin to 'I am Santa Claus, therefore the moon is not made of cheese' in that the second part of the statement is true, but it is not PROVED by the first part, nor is the first part even the least bit true.

Desertphile is always saying that he'll IMMEDIATELY retract his false statements given proof. It has now been well over a month since I first commented on one of his videos, telling him that magnetic fields contain energy and how to verify this fact. And yet he not only denies it, he spouts lies about what quantum physics has not proved because quantum physics has certainly not proved anything which is false.

So, who do you believe? The guy who numerous times has claimed to be an ignorant goat herder or the guy with a master's degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, who provides you with actual evidence - which you can easily find yourself if you're not too lazy to use any of 100+ search engines out there. My favorite's altavista. It was about the first and it's still about the best.

By the way, you may find this amusing:

It would seem Desertphile and a number of people who have criticized me for saying that magnetic fields contain energy lack the basic ability to use a search engine. Either that, or they were SO confident I was wrong that they didn't bother to try.

So I'm making it easy on you. All you have to do is watch.

As I said in DP's video, the argument he used to 'disprove' DEZZIELIGHTBULB007's "theory" is akin to 'I am Santa Claus, therefore the moon is not made of cheese' in that the second part of the statement is true, but it is not PROVED by the first part, nor is the first part even the least bit true.

Desertphile is always saying that he'll IMMEDIATELY retract his false statements given proof. It has now been well over a month since I first commented on one of his videos, telling him that magnetic fields contain energy and how to verify this fact. And yet he not only denies it, he spouts lies about what quantum physics has not proved because quantum physics has certainly not proved anything which is false.

So, who do you believe? The guy who numerous times has claimed to be an ignorant goat herder or the guy with a master's degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, who provides you with actual evidence - which you can easily find yourself if you're not too lazy to use any of 100+ search engines out there. My favorite's altavista. It was about the first and it's still about the best.

By the way, you may find this interesting:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1381965

It's a 'perpetual motion machine' which I designed. It of course won't work in real life and I say this explicitly in the info file, but it works in PSpice, which is popular numerical circuit simulation software. Evidently the accuracy of its numerical calculations leaves something to be desired. I was intending on merely designing a DC to DC converter. Funny thing is, PSpice told me it was 108% efficient, so I connected the output back to the input and presto; and after I fiddled with a few component values, I got it up to 627%. Now that's a big numerical error. Someone might try to build it and see just how efficient it actually is as a DC-DC converter or if it even works at all. Me, I've had the CO2 laser tubes I was going to use it to power for 3 months and I'm still scared to turn the thing on because if PSpice was that far off, I'm afraid the whole thing will blow up! Unfortunately the universe does not make numerical subtraction errors the way a numerical circuit simulation software can, so I'm not saying I'm afraid it's going to blow up from all the 'free energy' it generates, but just in the normal way that power electronics blows up when it's designed badly. Besides, I don't have its output connected back to its input anyway, it's connected to 120 VAC.

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[DragOzze]

You put wikipedia for the ultimate truth? moron

[supersandor]

Of course I don't consider wikipedia as the ultimate truth, fucktard.

You want me to refer you to my college physics text? "Physics for Scientists and Engineers", 2nd Edition by Fishbane, Gasiorowicz and Thornton Extended Edition, page 891. Wait. You say you don't have that on your bookshelf? Want to buy mine? I'll sell it to you for only 200 bucks. No? WELL THAT'S WHY I REFERENCED WIKIPEDIA YOU STUPID SHIT! It's easy to access! That's all. I also showed all those university websites.

Dumbass.

[supersandor]

Of course the irony is that I'm probably as qualified myself to write a physics book as the authors! So it's kind of arbitrary to even need to refer to anything else. Yet another reason to point to wikipedia. If I referred you to wikipedia to demonstrate to you that 0+0=0 if you insisted it equaled 137, I'm sure you'd deny that too. The point is this info is verifiable by an intelligent being with the capacity to do math. If you need to read it somewhere to know it you're a hopeless case anyway!

[Desertphile]

@WandingWizard ; "Feel free to respectfully correct me...."

If you wish respect, you will have to earn it---- I refuse to respect anyone who does not deserve it.

Magnetic fields are static forces: they cannot and do not contain energy of themselves---- they concert external sources of energy in to other forms of energy. I have more than a dozen videos on the subject.

[WandingWizard]

@Desertphile then how are like poles repelled AND opposite poles of two magnets are attracted? I'm no scholar, however, it does seem to me that to "move" anything does in fact depend on energy to perform said work of pushing and pulling(?).

Feel free to respectfully correct me with indisputable truth and fact, not theories and laws, if I presuming before motion can occur, energy is needed to perform that work... if I have been taught/tested/proven this ... wrongly ;^)

[BRAIDERMAN]

Supersandor - after my comments 5 months ago - you still haven't amended this video. Once again, no one is disputing that the magnetic field contains energy. What is open for discussion is that this energy should be called 'magnetic energy' or ,as I think, potential energy. It is only a matter of physics terminology.

[dan020350]

Philosophers do not agree nor disagree. But Critics always disagree. Just let people believe what they believe, everyone will be happy. If it works it works and if it doesn't move on.

[datzfast]

ever herd of osmotic pressure, its all about orientation.

[BRAIDERMAN]

Look Supersandor - no one is disputing that energy is contained within the magnetic field, because it requires an initial energy input to establish the magnetic field. I would not call that "magnetic energy". It is potential energy stored in the magnetic field. When the field finally collapses, the potential energy is given out.