Stravinsky - Ragtime for 11 instruments

Igor Stravinsky - Ragtime for 11 instruments

Kevin Field, conductor

Andrew Ng, violin I
Wong Lu Ee, violin II
Jebat Kee, viola
Oh Beng Yew, double bass
Vincent Kok, flute
Tan Boon Ping, clarinet
Wong Wen-Qi, trumpet
Mustaqim Abdullah, trombone
Song Ching Ling, french horn
Tan Su Yin, percussion
Lee Aik-Hong, piano

LIVE from Dewan Filharmonik Petronas, KLCC in the Malaysian Philharmonic Youth Orchestra (MPYO) Chamber Concert on 2nd June, 2009.

Category:

Music

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• igor
• stravinsky
• ragtime
• for
• 11
• instruments
• mpyo
• dfp
• klcc
• chamber
• orchestra
• classical
• music
• contemporary
• ensemble

[AndrasKeri]

Excellent, does someone know the name of the conductor and the orchestra?

[jebatarjunakee]

@AndrasKeri This is the Malaysian Philharmonic Youth Orchestra chamber players conducted by Kevin Field.

[fremsley001]

Absolutely brilliant performance! Music full of jutting elbows, strutting steps and wild but subtle hesitancy.

[MjoEm32]

@Rickriquinho In your shitty opinion. Which we don't need. Some of us can manage to like Brahms, Schoenberg and Stravinsky. Who gives a toss what you think?

[Rickriquinho]

@RandomTask3000 It’s the opposite, you have no proves but insist that “the music of the people is good just because it’s innate.” I’ll not discuss with you anymore because your analyses are naïve and you can’t accept metaphysics. I will say again: the difference between you and me is that I am questioning the reality and you just accept it.

[RandomTask3000]

@Rickriquinho Ethnocentric and objectivist bla bla bla.

When you say, "per se" all you mean is "I know what good art is and if you disagree with me you're wrong."

I don't know what kind of Rudyard Kipling bullshit you're trying to spout by saying "Folklore is not art" but the Gamelan music of Bali is the CLASSICAL tradition indigenous to that culture. If you think they're just a bunch of "natives" bashing away then you're not listening. You may not like it, but it's sophisticated

[Rickriquinho]

@RandomTask3000 Sociological and relativistic bla bla bla. You must learn to analyze things per se. The music of Bali is sophisticated? Is this a joke? Folklore is not art, man! Please…

[RandomTask3000]

@Rickriquinho Any sense of good or bad music varies by culture (i.e. the highly sophisticated music of Bali would be out of tune by our arbitrary tempered system) and therefore is necessarily subjective. Mozart was, in his day, considered by many to be pretentiously dissonant, with his use of tritones in resolving from 5 to 1.

Your view of a world in which there is any measurable standard for what is good or bad in art is profoundly false. Any standard is necessarily societal.

[RandomTask3000]

@Rickriquinho Well, I suppose I could have mentioned that I've been studying music composition in various academic institutions going on 5 years, but then you'd just say that I've been corrupted by academia.

There is no sentient social being without culture. Culture is not something one acquires on a tour of Europe by steamship, nor is it a means for (vainly) attempting to form an objective basis for musical criticism.

[Rickriquinho]

@RandomTask3000 Your sociological approach is ridiculous… Just to live among other human beings means nothing; people must have culture, without what their opinion has no value. Yes, objectively Stravinsky’s compositions have no significance because they can’t stand stylistic comparison with other ones.

[RandomTask3000]

@Rickriquinho It is inconceivable that I know nothing about art. Because I grew up among other human beings.

So I'm a relativist. Wait a minute, does that mean that this whole time your argument has been that Stravinsky's music is bad... OBJECTIVELY? As in, it's bad from all angles and people who think they enjoy it are simply incorrect? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

All this time I thought I was having a meaningful artistic discussion. Is my face red!

[Rickriquinho]

@RandomTask3000 You don’t anything about art, man. You are being relativist. Don’t waste my time…

[RandomTask3000]

@Rickriquinho If music is neither ideas nor simply emotions but (I presume) something which lies neatly between the two in a perfect compromise, all you're really saying is that you are somehow gifted with the authority to tell us when we're listening to good music and not merely something which lies too close to one end of the above spectrum. Sure, you can never know whether people are actually enjoying something or whether they're delusional, but THAT is the point. You can't know

[RandomTask3000]

@Rickriquinho Not to mention that, as far as modern music goes, this is pretty darn consonant. There are dissonances, but they are exciting. And the rhythmic structure is completely familiar. So if your argument is that we're tricking ourselves into liking this, you need to wake up and realize that not everyone need necessarily enjoy the same things.