Battle of Flodden -- part 1/6

Documentary on the Battle of Flodden in 1513. The battle between the English and the Scots resulted in the death of James IV of Scotland along with numerous casualties. The English army was commanded by Thomas Howard, earl of Surrey, who after winning victory, was granted back the dukedom of Norfolk which had been confiscated after Surrey and his father had fought for Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth.

Incidentally Surrey's son, also called Thomas Howard, would be the famous Duke of Norfolk who was a leading nobleman during the reign of Henry VIII. One of Surrey's daughters was Elizabeth, who married Thomas Boleyn and was mother to Anne Boleyn, Henry VIII's second wife. Another of Surrey's granddaughters would also be married to Henry VIII (Katherine Howard).

BTW -- the documentary is a bit dry but it is informative. However I really wish they hired Scottish actors for the voiceovers as this is some of the worst fake Scottish accents I have heard! Beats even Mel Gibson!

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[alanheath]

Henry was advised by his advisors not to get involved in this pointless conflict. So was James.

A pity the two kings could not have fought it out between themselves leaving their advisors, nobles and common people the time to go down the alehouse and get sloshed together.

What is often forgotten is the mass suffering, starvation and disease caused by pointless wars started by young monarchs just to show how macho they are.

[alanheath]

@axelfoaly10 Well said. Hundreds of years of pointless conflict separated us and look what we achieved united!

[spspaceboy]

So James IV was the original Don Quixote! Or so our anglophile narrator would have us believe.

[happymax1]

Men in Scotland wear skirts made out of picnic blankets....

[junkman19571]

when they're independent we can go back to hating each other.....hooray

[alanheath]

@calicheSCOT Bit of both I would say. There is no excuse for nationalist brainwashing as that is how it ends up!

[calicheSCOT]

@alanheath Because they wanted to or were persuaded by imperialist attitudes of their nations leaders?

[alanheath]

@calicheSCOT No, that is not quite the same thing - that was young people volunteering to kill each other.

[calicheSCOT]

@dmax631 Tell that to Henry VIII. England has a long history of tyranny.

[calicheSCOT]

@alanheath Not just young monarchs, look at WW1.

[dmax631]

the scottish stuarts were nutters, no wonder charles I was executed. You might be able to be a tyrannt in scotland, but dont try it on England

[gaiuskaiser]

It was Gods will that England and Scotland would come together as one.The Queen is a decendant of King James .Who was a direct decendant of King David.The royal line of Judah.Just do a study on the Stone of Scone aka Jacob's Pillar.Or a study on the Queens Royal Standard.