chinese lesson pinyin tones : don't bother learning them it is a waste of the Westerner's time

You can get by without EVER using tones. Think about this. No Mandarin Chinese song ever sung uses tones. It is impossible to use tones while singing Chinese because it is impossible to match them to the music. Yet the Chinese understand the words of the song without the tones. Therefore the tones are not necessary. This video is for those frustrated trying to learn tones. I speak Mandarin every day. The people I speak to are very impressed with my toneless Chinese and are usually shocked that I am so fluent. Just having good pronunciation without using tones is all you really need for everyday conversations using mostly common words. Of course we should all learn tones but I have been very busy and I have not found the time to master them. I can neither hear them or speak them but it doesn't stop me from speaking Chinese. Ironically a lot of Chinese I speak to say that my Mandarin is pretty standard. They say that despite the fact that I NEVER EVER EVER USE EVEN A SINGLE TONE. (Well that is a bit of a lie. I know the word for love, ai, is tone 4 and I sometimes say it with the tone.) I plan to learn the tones some day. I will make four lists of words. A list of all the tone 1 words, a list of all the tone 2 words, etc. Then I will spend a month with each list separately. I will memorize the Chinese words and the meanings in the tone one list, for example. Then when I hear someone say the word I will remember that it is a tone one word and then I will start to notice the tones. Wo kan, zhe shi yi ge hao de fang fa. He ni, bu yao yong shengdiao. Bu yao langfei ni di shijian.

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[schwiiZZZ]

stupid inferior white man cannot learn chinese

[jackcarpentersax]

@schwiiZZZ

You are sooooo correct. Learning Chinese is a real pain in the pigu!!

[jackcarpentersax]

Common everyday things you say when you first meet someone are easy for them and you to understand without tones. However, deep conversation requires tones. Make 4 lists of words, one for each tone and then memorize those words/sylables as 4 groups. Then you will start to notice the tones when you know what tone a word shoud be and you will get used to the sound .

[philiphoward123]

Well speaking for myself, I will learn tones, but this is extremely interesting, thank you!

[jackcarpentersax]

I want to learn tones, eventually. I plan to make a list of all the tone one words and to memorize them as a group and to do the rest for all the other tones.

[KONATAIZUMl]

what is this garbage

[philiphoward123]

I thought that was a really interesting idea too! At the moment I'm doing Japanese but my plan is to do Chinese after that. I find characters AND tones difficult so I thought I'd just do one at a time! I"m slowly getting the tones. I am a musician so you'd think I could tell the difference but it is still quite tricky.