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Uploaded by on May 1, 2008

This is part of a TV special a few years back on miracles. Although I am no longer a practicing Roman Catholic I still believe these miracle to be authentically supernatural.

Dualism Defended:
First, if theism is true, then physicalism as a worldview is false. God is not a physical being. Second, a number of people have argued that numbers exist and that they are abstract, nonphysical entities (e.g., sets, substances, or properties). Firstly, mathematics claims to give us knowledge. But if this is so, there must be something that mathematics is about. Just as the biologist discovers biological truths about biological objects (organisms), so the mathematician often discovers mathematical truths (he does not invent them all the time) and these truths are about mathematical objects. If one denies the existence of numbers, then it is hard to rescue mathematics as a field which conveys knowledge about something. Without numbers, mathematics becomes merely an internally consistent game which is invented. Without numbers mathematical and scientific knowledge is hard to maintain. But if numbers exist, physicalism as a worldview is false because numbers are not physical entities.

If physicalism is true, it is hard to see what one should make of the existence and nature of theories, meanings, concepts, propositions, the laws of logic, and truth itself. It would seem that theories themselves exist and can be discovered. The laws of logic seem to be real laws that govern the relationships between propositions. Propositions seem to exist and be the content of thoughts which become associated with the physical scratchings of a given langualge called sentences. Sentences may be made of black ink, be on a page, and be four inches long. But it is hard to see how the content of the sentence (i.e. the proposition or thought expressed by the sentence ) could be on the page. Such entities seem to be nonphysical entities which can be in the mind. Truth appears to be a relation of correspondence between a thought and the world. if a thought really describes the world accurately, it is true. It stands to the world in a relation of correspondence. But whatever else one wants to say about the relation of correspondence, it does not seem to be a physical relation like cause and effect.

Universals seem to exist and they are not material. A universal is an entity that can be in more than one place at the same time. Some universals are properties (redness, hardness, triangularity); others are relations (larger than, to the left of). Whatever else one may use to characterize the nature of matter, it is clear that a clump of matter is a particular. A piece of matter cannot be in more than one place at the same time. Physicalists deny the existence of universals at the level of general worldview, because universals are not physical entities.
For example, just because one cannot see the soul, weigh it , or say where it is, it does not follow that the soul does not exist. One cannot see, weigh, or locate numbers or values, but they still exist.

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  • It's a reflection folks....

    If something needs to be explained using a supernatural explanation, then obviously that explanation is wrong. It's the 21st century, we don't have to look to the supernatural to explain this or anything else.

  • @GawdOfThunder

    That's a false premise to exclude the supernatural. That the supernatural can be invoked anytime in a supposedly materialistic reductionist universe proves in the least that human thinking transcends the purely natural/material.

    God is God in every century so your last statement is supposed to achieve what?---A scientistic superior attitude? It is 21 centuries A.D. The year of Our LORD.

  • Earthquake lights look nothing like the Virgin Mary. There are several vids on Youtube of Earthquake lights to prove this point out. Anything but the Supernatural...some people love death too much.

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  • Many of the witnesses who saw these apparitions are still alive today. And of course, don't forget the additional millions who saw the apparitions which followed the 1986-1970 apparitions. Again muslims would be pleased to deny these apparitions, but REALITY was stronger. If you want to know why there were few pics taken in 1968, i am glad to talk with you.

  • @jedimasterham : so again you are saying that even if we ask rational people who have no motive to believe in Virgin Mary and thus their minds can't play trick on them, and they witnessed to it, we should still not believe them!? Approaching something with a pre-determined mind that it can never happen and is never possible is equally biased and fraulty. Be careful coz if u say this thing can never be true coz my mind is set not to acknowledge it, then u r equally biased.

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  • Holograms weren't invented in the year 1917. Nor was it in 40AD when she first appeared.

  • Jesus is a supernatural being and a human being, like the rest of us. We just forgot our way to the Lord. Mary is coming back to gather the last of His flock. Jump aboard!! Thank you God for giving Her to us. And Thank you Jesus for calling on us who have eyes and ears!!

  • Read Revelations 12

  • The supernatural does exist, I for one have had two experiences in my life.The first one was were I felt the power of my lord an savior jesus Christ flow through my body,I felt like if i was almost floating an had a sence of inner peace so devine is hard to put into words.The second was the presence of pure evil that shook me to the bones.To me they are two oposing energies is really that simple,the darkness although powerfull fears the light,an has never understood an we ponds in their battle.+

  • @cformosa4 Let me help there. I read about these aparitions back in the early 1980's well before personal computers and way before any programs such as photoshop. The photos were around then. I think I read about it in a book from the Fortean society. Regardless, they predate any such possibility.

  • is there any video evidence that isn't a photoshopped picture? I believe in god - i am a practicing catholic but i need more than a black and white picture.

  • @REDWINGSRED36,

    satan would appear as an angel of light and make the statement you just made. You are working against God and the gifts this video is providing to God's people. You will know them by their fruits.

  • Even Satan can appear as an Angel of light and preform miraculous wonders.. be careful and don't be deceived!

  • @EZlogic1,

    Exactly, his explanation is unsubstantiated, and would be more than magical! He probably believes the incorruptible bodies of the saints are a reflection of a hologram, no, they are the reflection of Christ! 

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