Wrestling Roundtable 6/21/09 Part 1 Brock Lesnar Vs. Randy Couture/Frank Mir

The panel discusses UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar's latest fights ; His November victory at UFC 91 over Randy "The Natural" Couture, and his upcoming Las Vegas unification rematch against Interim Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir at UFC 100. Hosted by Eric Santamaria.

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[Gyro911]

These guys are wong.. Lesner was 2-1 not 1-1 coming into the couture fight and beat herring for his second victory.. Herring previously beat Congo before that so based on ranking, Lesner shot up to top ranking Heavyweight level

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Perhaps, but the 1-1 thing...I meant in UFC he was 1-1, not that his pro record was 1-1.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[Biffmiester]

Did u guys catch the video of Rampage dry humpin sum cute chick during their interview? Funny as hell, but weird simultaneously... and for the ppl who thought this was a wrestling show and naggin bout UFC talk, wrestling is incorporated into MMA, y'know (see: Matt Hughes, Rashad Evans, Matt Hamill, Randy Couture)

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Haven't yet, but soon enough! As far as wrestling being incorporated in to MMA, of course those are amateur wrestlers and they used amateur/greco-roman techniques but the people nagging mean pro wrestling of course. But not only do pro wrestling & MMA share the same common origins, with the way Jonny "Bones" Jones fights, we'll see pro wrestling moves soon enough, heh. But what about the reverse? Lots of wrestlers incorporate MMA. Danielson, Angle, Samo Joe, UWFI, etc.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[frothydrink]

Energy drink, Affliction wearing Jackoffs!! Brilliant!

[WrestlingRoundtable]

ha, thanks!

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[RantNRavinFection]

As a wrestling fan, yes, I am proud that a "rassler" like Lesnar is the UFC champ. The point is, people diss pro wrestling because of stupid WWE shit. They don't see athletes, they see clowns doin stupid shit like D-X or John Cena. It's fake shit for kids. Add to the fact that they don't got access to ROH or pureresu, the only "rasslin" news are steroid shit in the media, and thus Americans have this limited perception that "rasslers" can't be serious competitive athletes.

[marbs0204]

Generally, mma fans, pro-wrestling fans, and fans of both still don't realize the connection that has always existed between mma and wrestling. Many of PRIDE's Japenese fighters were former pro-wrestlers. Just look at Kazushi Sakuraba (one of my fav fighters). He was the first successful pro-wrestler in mma way before Brock came along. Ken went to the wwe after his first period in mma. WWE helped promote ufc in the early era. Rampage's slams are influenced by his early love of pro-wrestling.

[Mider999]

I dont think Lesnar does anything in UFC like he did in WWE. I mean in WWE he would pick up guys and toss them around like they were ragdolls its also rehearsed and you know who's going to win..........the moves are done in a way to LEAST hurt you. When they do a german suplex they try to slam you on the a part of your back thats pretty strong.

[knewok]

your right. definitly hasnt earned it yet. i think brock might wreck him right now.. but a year from now? maybe not so much. i think kimbo will soon be one of the best. the one to beat

[vespaman101]

kimbos not good enouh to earn that fight. not yet and i doubt he wudl ever be to be honest. and kimbos only fought in ufc once.

[misstreeious]

i live in this world

[WillIsSoAwesome]

If you think this is "new" you smack of NEW FAN~!!!

[TheWrestlingLantern]

I don't know much about MMA yet so I will have to be careful, I don't wanna sound like Sharon Stone when she talks about politics. Thought if I had a vagina I would certainly show it for ££££. Anyhow I am really getting into MMA and have the roundtable to thank. Nice one guys I love that the show is more than just wrestling. Take it easy.

[DeathAdder83]

I don't follow the UFC or MMA at all and I haved hated Brock since his debut in the WWE. But I am kind of interested in watching some of his fights now, its going to be hard, but I may have to take a break from you guys just to see this stuff. Also will there be a Kimbo Slice V Brock match ever, I have seen Kimbo on here from his old beat the shit out of dumb asses in the street days and enjoyed it.

[STEALTH872003]

The strong style in Japan prepares alot these guys for mma as they get used to being potatoed. Many guys who are in the japanese wrestling orgs have credible wrestling and judo backgrounds.

[WickedNemesis]

Let's just hope UFC 100 doesn't become Wrestlemania 3. A few big matches, but reaching its pinnacle.

[WickedNemesis]

Come on, it's obvious UFCs main events have become a "work." Faces and Heels are the new thing in MMA. Lesnar plays this perfectly. Dana White loves him going crazy after the match. People talked about them even more