Rudolf Serkin - Beethoven Sonata No. 30, Op. 109 - Part 2

Live performance 1987

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Music

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• Rudolf
• Serkin
• Beethoven
• Sonata
• Op.
• 109
• Major

[quintos34]

Body movement has nothing to do with music, I don't see your point.. I't's the music that matters.

[sll10]

I totally agree. Only time body movement and facial expressions matter is when the playing is bad which is DEFINItely NOt the case with Serkin.

[quintos34]

I really don't care about body movement or facial expressions period..

Some can move all around and look like they have kidneystones the size of a tennisbal and play godlike music and others look beautiful behind a piano with great posture and shit and play like crap..

It's all fine with me, I'll go for the music anytime.

[sll10]

I agree; but unfortunately, a lot of people who move too much don't play well as generally, an advanced virtuoso technique requires that one doesn't make too many extraneous movements (a la Horowitz, Cziffra, Rachmaninoff and such); on the other hand, there are those with virtuoso techniques that move all around like Andre Watts and Lorin Hollander, and Mitsuko Uchida so go figure. Essentially the sound is all that matters to me.

[quintos34]

So, a lot of people who move much don't play well in generally..and others do.. Sounds like a non-theory to me..

But we do agree, music matters, the rest is background noise.

[sll10]

No, using motion properly at the keyboard is very important for technique; I know because I'm a classical pianist myself. It's just some people have bad habits of motion that they've carried over into adulthood and are so talented that they STILL play fantastically well.

[shevansilva]

How brilliant and perfect is the 3rd movement (whole sonata actually)? Point is what annoys me is that there are people who think 'Fur Elise' is great. I wish such people would listen to this or countless other Beethoven masterpieces.

[PhillyB702]

@hutz and the second movement of op. 111. These last three sonatas are debatably the best piano sonatas of all time

[hutz]

@shevansilva The third movement is just incredible, just like op.110's.

[malonu157]

Is it just me or the thema ( especially  5-6 bars ) sound a little bit like Handel..?

[Pianoguy32]

@quintos34 the performer probably does not notice as he would be under intense concentration.

[pianomama1635]

@Rachbabble Do it, do it! It's a fantastic thrill to play this work, so many peaks and valleys of emotion and expression. Good luck!

[predoje]

@sll10 Gould: Perfect example of character and personality, ego at the piano in sound and in movements.

[predoje]

@sll10 you are mixind technic with visual experience. Movements at the piano are signs of pianist personality his own feeling at the piano. It doesnt meen if pianist move around and make facial grimases that he makes bad sound and he than must cover it with movement.Movements at the piano is something natural and as such it can be recognized.If someone make false or unatural movement talented musician will notice

[Snuds05]

I play piano and think that when you play it just happenes

[predoje]

@quinto34 if somebody dont care he wouldnd write about it...so you lose.

[quinto34]

@predoje Read again, maybe you understand..