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[joni9780]

babycow we hate the patriot act, support a democracy& a constitution& are against corporate or government tryranny,

go troll people that support that,stop trolling this page with threats of shooting, your lucky you havent been flagged already& are making yourself look foolish.

@old hacks I would say Thomas Paine is a true internationalist, I dont think he belongs to hard left or anywhere on the old political spectrum that we need to move away from.

[oldhacks]

@joni9780 give me liberty or give me death is a pretty radical statement. and either he believed in liberty for ALL which would mean he was a democrat, or liberty for the those with the most power, which would make him a republican.

[overmind25]

OMG look at the views for this video. Good job oldhacks.

[RonPaulGeorgeRingo]

Bob Barr - The Libertarian nominee? What a joke!

What's next, Ken Starr as VP? (lol) The sex police ticket? Going backwards folks . . .

Sad day if Ron Paul endorses Barr . . .

[oldhacks]

@boxingboycow "all legislative powers shall reside in the congress." that states in clear english that the congress can do whatever it wants concerning LAWMAKING... get a clue.

[boxingboycow]

@oldhacks The Patriot act is not constitutional, anything that strips citizens of a constitutional right such as the 4th amendment must take an amendment in itself. DO YOU NOT READ THE CONSTITUTION? So I guess because congress passed it you say the Federal Reserve act is constitutional? If so fella you're too stupid to deserve that document protecting your freedoms!

[oldhacks]

@boxingboycow the constitution is what gives the government the right to make laws without our consent. the patriot act is constitutional. "All legislative powers shall reside in the congress". thats what the constitution says. basically just as Jefferson said to Adams as Washington had our first inaugural address..."we just traded one king for another."

[oldhacks]

@joni9780 Thomas Pain said "Give Me Liberty or give me Death." he was a hard left radical that believed in prosperity and the common good. not hierarchical systems of control. which is what the constitution is as of 2011. Amend it by federal ballot. we should be able to vote from home on anything the congress is voting on. and it be LAW.

[joni9780]

Thomas Paine would say restore the constitution with a direct democratic edge, not a representative democracy that allows uncooperative corporations2dictate. Mr paine like most american revolutionaires was a true inter-nationalist, we need to recognise a universal constitution, thats supports more real democracy universally, the world has to coordinate democratically unless we want it to fall into a toxic nuclear dump. The US is great, but we can all learn alot from switzerland

[boxingboycow]

@oldhacks LOL NO I never said anything about laying down and letting them stick it to you harder, I will say it to you as simple as I say it to my 1st grade Neice, DONT CHANGE IT, OUR OWN HISTORY HAS PROVEN THAT CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN FUTILE TO OUR OWN PEOPLE, RESTORE IT. RESTORE IT TO WHEN THE PEOPLE HAD THE POWER, RESTORE IT TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT FREE, RESTORE IT TO WHEN IT WORKED AND HELPED FORGE THE GREATEST COUNTRY AND BEACON OF LIBERTY THIS WORLD HAS EVER SEEN!

[oldhacks]

@boxingboycow so you're saying "the elites control us no matter what we do so why try to do anything about it"?

[boxingboycow]

@oldhacks The elite will control the initiative. Why cant you idiots see that? Who will fund them, who will sponsor them, who will give them value, who will push them in the mainstream media?? THE FILTHY FUCKING RICH then you do what, you give 51% the ability to take the rights of 49%. This gets passed I start shooting to defend my Constitution.