Once saved, always saved? part 1

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[KabaneTheChristian]

@Hunter8074

Galatians 6:16, the Church called the Israel of God. The rapture? LOL! 1 Thess refers to the Second Coming and general resurrection. The Bible teaches TWO not three comings.

[KabaneTheChristian]

@Hunter8074

(Revelation 21:2) And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Um, the NEW Jerusalem? The BRIDE of Christ? What is the bride of Christ? The Church! Revelation 19:7-8, it is made up of the saints of Christ, identified in the Pauline letters as the people of the Church. Galatians 3:7, the true sons of Abraham (Israel) are those who have faith in Christ, that is, the Church.

[Mkvine]

@Hunter8074

You haven't proven anything yet. Actually the only thing you've proven is that you can't prove your case lol. Also, you've shown yourself to be a Marcionite Heretic, good job. I have refuted your claims over and over and over again. All you've done is appeal to emotions, sorry that is not a valid form of argumentation. Try better next time.

[Hunter8074]

@KabaneTheChristian The whole church is NOT the new Israel.How can this be in a book thats still in the future?Revelation 21:2 is very clear this cannot be the church,Who in the world is teaching you that the Church is the bride?This is in the future and is NOT going to happen till after the Rapture of the church.1Thess4:14-18.In fact show me any verses that the church is the bride?Im looking forward to this.

[Hunter8074]

@Mkvine Im right on this and you know it,Like the scam purgatory?Ever hear of that?You have no clue as to rightly dividing the word of God.And now theres two of you in this conversation not just one whom I was talking to right?So who had to go get help?Your false doctrine and twisting scriptures is the best you can do.You dont get it,SALVATION is different then the walk once you are saved.Tell me,What part in salvation did you and Christ and God have in salvation?

[KabaneTheChristian]

@Hunter8074

Are you a hyper-dispensationalist? Galatians 6:16 refers to the Church as the "Israel of God", and the Bible clearly teaches that those Jews who reject Jesus as Messiah are apostate, while those who accept Him remain in true Israel. The Bible is for the whole Church, the New Israel.

[KabaneTheChristian]

@Hunter8074

No, NOT right. As I told you earlier, salvation is not an event, it is a process. Thus, the evangelical phrase, "getting saved", holds NO MEANING for me.

[Mkvine]

@Hunter8074

First of all, Kabane is not Catholic, he is Orthodox, get your facts straight. Second of all, ad hominem is not a valid argument. To call the Church a "whore" is nothing more than appealing to emotions which show you have nothing logical to say and are losing this discussion. Third of all, yes Jesus does save us. He does so by applying his Grace won on the cross to us through the sacraments. Stop attacking strawman.

[Hunter8074]

@KabaneTheChristian Romans/Doctrine 1&2 Cor/RE-Proof Galatians/Correction Eph/Doctrine Phil/RE-Proof  Col/Correction 1&2 Thess/Doctrine 1&2Tim Instruction Titus,Phili/Instruction.Are you getting this?Your catholic whore cannot or will not save you with these soo called sacraments.Only Christ can save you.To use books NOT to the church only Robs The Jews of their inheritance.This also shows my you do not even know how to study the Bible!

[Hunter8074]

@KabaneTheChristian What does a person do before they get baptized? They get saved Right?Then what?They get baptized.Again you pull scripture out of Context.The true meaning of this verse is Water itself cannot save.Baptism With water is the VIVID SYMBOL Of the CHANGED life of one who has a conscience at peace with God THROUGH FAITH in Christ Jesus.You know nothing of Rightly Dividing the Word of God.But I will Show you.