There already is a Dutch greenhouse that generates more energy than it uses - including through geothermal energy storage. (Google: greenhouse geothermal; or google: "dutch greenhouse" geothermal)
@tigerone1970, "You would need a whole new energy infrastructure, requiring vast amounts of resources, many of which are already severely depleted, and of course immense amounts of energy from fossil fuels" Not necessarily. Use the older ,traditional infrastructure like the national passenger railway system , re-emphasize the old "victory garden " and recycling networks we devised during WWII at home to overcome basic needs shortages because of mandatory rationing of oil, gas, rubber, etc
You would need a whole new energy infrastructure, requiring vast amounts of resources, many of which are already severely depleted, and of course immense amounts of energy from fossil fuels -- which you won't have. Add in population growth, a broken economy and climate change, and that "switch" is not going to happen.
The change you are talking about should have commenced 30 or 40 years ago. It didn't, and now it's too late. Sorry.
(Continued...) All that transportation is done by sea shipping and air freight. Most buildings can be energy selfsufficient. Most freight can be avoided through local production resulting in slightly higher prices, but also higher incomes and switching to locally produced goods. Right now, even fuel is shipped in from halfway around the world.
" @tigerone1970 And what happens when? the fossil? fuels start to run out? "
Two things will happen: 1) We switch to renewable energies - solar, thermal, biofuel. 2) We become more efficient. Right now the cod or herring on your plate is more of a world traveler than most people are. Herring is caught by the Russians, filleted by the Chinese, and sold to the Dutch.
@benandreas369
" Geothermal energy. "
There already is a Dutch greenhouse that generates more energy than it uses - including through geothermal energy storage. (Google: greenhouse geothermal; or google: "dutch greenhouse" geothermal)
tigerone1970 6 months ago
@tigerone1970 Geothermal energy.
benandreas369 6 months ago
@simonsrd100 That is somewhat true, Nuclear energy is not as great as people believe.
235RB 7 months ago
@simonsrd100 That's a myth.
hyhhy 8 months ago
I have heard that there is only enough nuclear matter to power nuclear stations for the next twenty years then that power source is gone .
simonsrd100 9 months ago
@tigerone1970, "You would need a whole new energy infrastructure, requiring vast amounts of resources, many of which are already severely depleted, and of course immense amounts of energy from fossil fuels" Not necessarily. Use the older ,traditional infrastructure like the national passenger railway system , re-emphasize the old "victory garden " and recycling networks we devised during WWII at home to overcome basic needs shortages because of mandatory rationing of oil, gas, rubber, etc
PoetMarinerRay 10 months ago
@tigerone1970 "We switch to renewable energies."
You would need a whole new energy infrastructure, requiring vast amounts of resources, many of which are already severely depleted, and of course immense amounts of energy from fossil fuels -- which you won't have. Add in population growth, a broken economy and climate change, and that "switch" is not going to happen.
The change you are talking about should have commenced 30 or 40 years ago. It didn't, and now it's too late. Sorry.
klondike444 11 months ago 2
(Continued...) All that transportation is done by sea shipping and air freight. Most buildings can be energy selfsufficient. Most freight can be avoided through local production resulting in slightly higher prices, but also higher incomes and switching to locally produced goods. Right now, even fuel is shipped in from halfway around the world.
tigerone1970 11 months ago
@wix99,
" @tigerone1970 And what happens when? the fossil? fuels start to run out? "
Two things will happen: 1) We switch to renewable energies - solar, thermal, biofuel. 2) We become more efficient. Right now the cod or herring on your plate is more of a world traveler than most people are. Herring is caught by the Russians, filleted by the Chinese, and sold to the Dutch.
tigerone1970 11 months ago
@tigerone1970 And what happens when the fossil fuels start to run out?
wix99 11 months ago