The Great Debate: Lennox vs Shermer 4/10
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This guys is soooooo GOOD! And right too ;-)
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"Getting rid of money because it causes Greed".... Hmmm...why not!... Good idea, Lennox
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You couldn't do science if nature was an "irrational process". The very fact that nature is rational and consistent demonstrates that a natural process explains the facts surrounding Jesus' death and its aftermath.
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@theonlydode name one that is within 50 years of the time he supposedly lived.
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@theonlydode and we are not and therein lies OUR problem. Baloney. And who would expect children to be perfect anyway? You are right religion is not perfect, because they are taking advantage of sheeple who don't do their own research and homework into these matters. My belief is that God is love and Infinite and Unconditional love at that. So you see, there is nothing to get right or someone to please. This frees us and kills religion once and for all.
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@theonlydode What you are not seeing is that your defiant facts are only your programmed beliefs. (How many times have you been in church hearing that these things were true when they left out the little detail about how it is all really based on faith, and that even they don't know). If you are truly honest, you will admit this, if not, you are swayed/being controlled by someone else's story. And, how do you/we know God is perfect? And we hear that God is perfect continued
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@rovingdesertfox There is a defined line between "preferred beliefs" and "facts." Personality with my faith the line, for the most part, is non-existant. As I've often said God may be perfect but religion certainly is not. No one is forcing you to believe. All I can do is present the defiant facts, and let your personal belief take its destined course.
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@theonlydode It's not ignorant at all, but a logical question to be asked, but of course you will have to say what you did to not answer the question. Your 'facts' are not facts at all, but your preferred beliefs. Makes no difference to me. I rejected the religion many years ago and would rather die than give that organization/corporation of programmed mind control one penny. Any you can also believe what you want, and the facts will always be true on all accounts.
Not sure how Lennox can say the resurrection is a fact. Because it says so in the bible? Mmmm....Even if events unfolded as they were recorded in that book, because the stone was rolled away, this is evidence for resurrection? There must be several other possibilities that could explain how a body is missing and the stone is rolled away; I would venture that resurrection would be WWWWWAAAAAAAAAYYY down the list of options.
rovingdesertfox 9 months ago 5
I can't stand Lennox's voice... that makes what he says more irritable
ElijahBailey2000 5 months ago