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[madest]

Whats more outrageous Kit?

1) Calling someone in the CIA a liar or Outing an undercover CIA agent?

2) Instituting torture in defiance of the Geneva convention or being briefed on torture and not saying anything?

Get your outrage in order old man and your party might get out of the gutter.

[bigkurt25]

So you're saying its alright for the speaker of the house to lie to the country?

whether waterboarding terrorists is against the geneva convention is up for debate. this should not be

[madest]

bigkurt25, I didn't say any such thing. I think it's ridiculous that everyone is so quick to assume that the CIA was being truthful. Aren't they the ones who insisted there were WMDs in Iraq? In fact I remember George Tenent saying it was "a slam dunk". Until Kit gets the facts he's just another republican trying to bash the democrats.

drillanwar, It's clear to me that you put your party before your country. You and those like you are what's wrong with America.

[bigkurt25]

i would disagree with that one point you made and say he isnt a republican just trying to bash democrats. i think they are on to something here. there were others in the room during that time who were briefed on waterboarding. party over country is dangerous on either side.

as for WMD's in Iraq the thought about that was because saddam had them in the past and used them. plus intelligence agencies around the globe believed that they were there.

[drillanwr]

Charles Graner and Lynndie England 1) did not torture anyone, they "insulted" them. Insult is not torture. 2) Charles Graner and Lynndie England were/are assholes that paid for what they did. They were held accountable. You're point? If YOU believe "torture"/ EITs didn't happen under Clinton or any dem prez you are lying to yourself. As for "douchebags", I doubt you should be using such a term when trying to justify your position in a debate. Makes you look all 7th grade, dude.

[madest]

You only support torture because it was implemented by Bush. Ronald Reagan gave a speech against torture. Your party stood by silently as 2 American soldiers went to jail for torture (Charles Graner and Lynndie England). They were called "rouge soldiers" by Bush. Phil Gramm known for taking copious notes on everything from what he ate for lunch to what time he peed says the same thing as Pelosi (and he was republican) so stop being such a partisan douchebag.

[hellavadeal]

Pillow-see is full of it. However to say the cia doesn't lie is funny. To be a spy u need to be a good lier. They lie all the time. Just not good if they get caught doing it to the government.

[drillanwr]

No, it's the democrats who are putting their party before the country. This has just exposed that fact ... finally. They put their party before the country for 8 yrs.

[drillanwr]

1) oh stop sucking on that tired limp dick. She WAS NOT "undercover" or covert, she sat at a desk and painted her fucking nails Pelosi said the CIA lied ... not one person. 2) How many times you libtards have to be read that damn Geneva convention document? The detainees DO NOT fit in any catagory therein, waterboarding is not torture.

Pelosi is an idiot and should not be in Congress. You don't go into a gun fight with the CIA armed with a damn Botox needle ... she's toast.