National Geographic maps/Balkans 1915 - 2006: FYROM, HOW A LIE BECOME TRUE
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Fyrom : Stealing and forging history since 1991.
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the original balkans is Greece and Romania
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Presian's reign apparently coincides with the extension of Bulgarian control over the Slavic tribes in and around Macedonia. The Slavic peoples that settled in the region of Macedonia accepted Christianity as their own religion around the 9th century, during the reign of Tsar Boris I of Bulgaria.
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They claim that they are Makedonian but not greek that is not correct because Makedonians are greeks they are slavs not greeks, In 700 AD During the 580s, Byzantine literature attests to the Slavs raiding Byzantine territories in the region of Macedonia, aided by Avars or Bulgars. Historical records document that in c.680 a group of Bulgars, Slavs and Byzantines led by a Bulgar called Kuber settled in the region of Keramisian plain, centred on the city of Bitola.
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Etymology of FYROM?Name:The country's name derives from the Greek Μακεδονία (Makedonía),a kingdom (later, region) named after the ancient Makedonians. Their name, Μακεδόνες (Makedónes), derives ultimately from the ancient Greek adjective μακεδνός (makednós), meaning "tall, taper"which shares the same root as the noun μάκρος (mákros), meaning "length" in both ancient and modern Greek .
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@cristianmicalaca hahahahah. You mean Serbs and Macedonians!!!!! Boath are Darkskin nations, so they cant be from Europe. I agree that a lot of Romanians and greeks are Ex Serbs, but the color of skin cant lie.
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It is incredible how much Greeks desperately wants Macedonian and Serbian history. Greeks are from Egypt, just look at their faces. Macedonians are white, Europian nation. Not to mention evidewnces, 1500 of them. Sorry Greeks but you are not native on Balkan as Macedonians and Serbs are. Alexander was Macedonian and end of story!!!
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@ypruss Ok I am Australian, just so you understand. There are million of Greeks in Australia and we are happy to have them here as our fellow countrymen. I have seen the passion in Greeks in Australia when this issue is mentioned. But i thought to myself. Would not people who where so passionate about their history want to have the city of Skopje and it's rejoin with links to Philip within the Greek nation? The people of the place could soon be taught Greek and the Customs.
The Greek leadership if they where smart would have taken the opportunity of the break up of Yugoslavia to incorporate the Fyrom region into Greece. Here we have a people who want to be seen as Macedonian. What Greece should have done was to promote a joint referendum in Fyrom and Greece for the rejoin to become part of Greece. Then the Greek nation would then own the birthplace of Philip and they would have no trouble calling the rejoin and it's people Macedonia and Macedonian. Everyone wins.
AdstarAPAD 2 weeks ago
@AdstarAPAD The Greeks are proud for their Macedonian culture & have no trouble with the term Macedonia & there is nothing Macedonian to rejoin. The GR Macedonia is already united...so no need for a political surgery in order to annex a cancer to the GR organism (Fyromians want to be seen as "Macedonians"...not Greeks). Only a long lasting "chemotherapy" acting in killing this Fyromian deception that rapidly try to steal & forge history & stop other nations encourage them in doing it
ypruss 2 weeks ago
@ypruss I am sure these people of Fyrom could be won over. Lets face it Greece came into being from many different city state peoples who looked upon themselves as being different from other city states even to the point of war. So what harm would it do to absorb a new city state into Greece like Skopje? Within a generation they would be all speaking Greek and would not see any difference between being Greek or Macedonian. Indeed there is no difference Macedonia is Greek..
AdstarAPAD 2 weeks ago
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"...Greece came...even to the point of war..."
Greeks city states never done war based on their diversity in cultural, linguistic, religious, ethnological matters. They were common to all of that and always united (even if with different views on how to do it) to their enemies: the barbarians. Their wars were always a question of power, politics, territory. No Greek city state ever tried to assimilate other Greek city state (wasn't necessary)...Macedonians included
ypruss 2 weeks ago
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Now assimilation is obtained in two ways. Forcibly or peacefully. Supposing we exclude forcibly for obvious reasons and considering the peacefull way...how & why?...'it takes two to tango'...he have none here (apart the fact that nearby nations figth with their own propaganda in a Fyrom territory with, a clear, no Greek coscience, & with a clear Slavobulgar heritage, language & culture mixed with a vast maggiority of Albanians ready to explode).
ypruss 2 weeks ago
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But let's suppose we did it. Be sure that such a move will work as another Balkan trojan horse that sooner or later will destibilise our Macedonia (of course trough time) with their "a greater, no Greek, Macedonia" concept & with the blessings & the helping of another 'USA' country style policy (divide & conquer) will tragicly end for us in a new war & maybe kosovo. Of course time will tell but history teach us that wars come first & some kind of assimilation afterwards
ypruss 2 weeks ago