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@StratMatt777 Nephilim(aliens) arealready here. Watch my "starchild" video. "The stars will fall from heaven" reffers to Satan casting a 3rd of the stars from Heaven, that is the second heaven. Satan cannot enter into the 3rd Heaven, that is the throne of God. To understand Revelation you have to read Isaiaha, it fills in the blanks. The lastTrump is in Revelation 11, which is also Isaiaha 33. We that keep His Word, and do not deny Hs Name(Yahshua), will escape the trial to come upon the world.
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@08Revelator i struggle with this a lot, yes the bible does not specifically state anything about a "rapture", BUT it does say things like in Revelations 3:10 "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." so idk what to think...
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But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36. I'm personally pan trib. No matter what happens if your living right it will all pan out ;)
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This was a very uplifting teaching on the tribulation ..let us be ready and doing His Good Will so that upon His return we will be ready.
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@sweets3000 The Bible says very clearly, in your opinion? Doesn't that kinda completely erase the first statement? How do you explain Acts 3:19-21?
"I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
John 16:33
Tribulation is persectution of satan to Believers. I dunno who your God is, but depending on who it is will change who's wrath it is. God's wrath is always noted before it happens in rev
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2nd Thess 2. Tells us that Christ's return and our gathering to Him, that DAY (meaning same on one day) will not happen until a falling away first, then the son of perdition (antichrist) is revealed. Then we will be gathered. Day of the Lord and the "rapture" are one.
Acts 3:19-21 tells us Jesus will NOT leave heaven until the restoration of all things. Tell me, is the 7 years before the day of the Lord the restoration of all things? No. Jesus leaves heaven once to get His bride. Amen!
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if pretrb was true them why do you ppl go to rediculous lengths and efforts to fight about it like you do? You remind me of an atheist who fights to prove God doesnt exist yet in the flip side you are fierce to fight and argue about the post trib doesnt exist but only as you think pretrib is true. You ppl act like 7 year olds and shameful at that!!! see to yourself.
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@thomasborboa1358 He doesn't use the word "tribulation" either, when talking about the end times. It doesn't mean that its not Gods wrath because that exact word isnt used. It is clearly His wrath based on what that word means. I get so confused as to why people get caught up in Semantics and word games but seem to miss the plain sense meaning of things. What do you mean when you say that? You dnt see that God's wrath is being described?
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@KeyboardPacifist The Bible makes it very clear that the tribulation is Gods wrath in my opinion. Would you mind explaining what you mean when you say that it is not, and refer to the day of the Lord. What is your way of dividing the Word in this matter?
Bible is very clear that Jesus comes back only at the Last Trumpet.
numberourdays 1 year ago 7
Whether you call the "gathering together" the Rapture or not is not the issue here. This is talking against the doctrine of Pre-tribulation. This escapist way of thinking about prophesy does not profit the Christian. The Lord did not give us a spirit of fear.
Any person that sites the "rapture" or "gathering together of God's elect" to happen before or even in the middle of the Great Tribulation is simply misinformed.
08Revelator 7 months ago 3