KRISHNAMURTI : The Last Talks - Talk 1. (Part 2 of 8).

This is Talk 1: Part 2 (28 December 1985, Madras India), it is in eight parts.
The first of 3 Final Talks given by Jiddu Krishnamurti, his last and most enigmatic talks.

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[poeavor]

well I can hear the crows...lol!!

[Juanster23]

Krishna says, the thinker is the thought and the thought is the thinker. That one has to go beyond thought or negate thought. How does one go beyond thought if thought is all that one knows?

[diesel691]

@Juanster23... its the self behind the thought which lies beyond both thought and thinker (the physical vehicle ) , K means to go beyond both ...not easy but can be done

[dsparry08]

Hi Juanster..that's one of those Krishnamurti Conundrums...he would probably say that when you come to that realization on your own...not just intellectually that a transformation would take place...but you have to see it deeply..then theproblem is how fo you reach that particular depth he speaks of,eh...cheers..D

[y34r]

but what if the observer outside of thought is just another form/shadow of thought?

or as if the clearness of minds is just a manipulation of mind itself

Mind is such a perplexing place,

[AlwaysBe5]

@Juanster23 he talks about just listening. he listens to the crows but doesn't invite thought in to say "what annoying crows" or "be quiet already" :P

[Leofox94]

Damn... These people don't even understand the English language! Whom is he talking to.

[reeceh78]

@Juanster23 by ceasing to associate oneself with thought or thinker obviously, if one must go beyond thought, one must not be the thought or the thinker ; )

[ramanapaadam]

Many thanks for uploading this wonderful dialogue. If one listens without prejudices without your thoughts interfering in the listening then what Krishnaji says is bound to make a transformation within you without your asking or your volition. If not one has not listened. Only heard some words and interpreted those words according to your past knowledge.

[EveryTongueShallTell]

@Juanster23 He also says the truth is pathless and can't be reached by intellectual analysis or introspective dissection. It can found through the mirror of relationship and understanding contents of own mind through observation.

[AlwaysBe5]

6:25 "we are lived on this earth as human beings for very very long time, which is called revolution and during that revolution our experience, knowledge, thinking, all the things that man has put together, including these superstitious, these Gods... and it comes down to this actual fact 'what is happen to each one of us?' " I think he says all things about life and death are invented by man so when we look outside of it, we see what we are--mere human with life and death, nothing spiritual.