Ivan's Powered Paraglider Crash in Holland Michigan

Ivan's Crash in Holland Mi.
September 2007

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Sports

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• powered
• paragliding
• crash
• in
• holland
• michigan

[hammernut28]

You are so right! People open there mouths without

ingaging there brains.  If you havn't done the sport you

have no right talking bad about the sport. I have never

hanglided myself but I would love to try it. But I understand

there is danger in any sport too. Thanks for your comment!

[armandin2048]

Take the slowest and most boring aircraft in the world and stick a motor on it as you cannot thermal - and the twatt still can't fly - give up and take up jnitting oromething that you can handle for fucks sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hammernut28]

Don't knock it unless you have tried it.

[hammernut28]

ryan your a puss! Don't knock the sport until you try it. There is a video called risk and reward. Watch it! Ivan knew the risk of flying in the middle of the day.

It wasn't the first time it had happened to him. If you get proper instruction and use that knowledge you receive, You should never have this problem as long as you follow the rules about flying. 1 Watch the weather! 2 Watch the weather! 3 Get proper instruction from a certified instructor.

[flightjunkie250]

pilots left there are a few small hangers, a road and some trees. But directly in the path he was flying, there wasnt obstructions for at least 2000 feet. But even at that, the wind wasnt blowing enough to make rotors like that. Late morning flying combined with crossing a ashphalt taxiway may have started a small thermal...contributing to the incident. Hard to say all the "what ifs" and no real idea what happened. He bent his cage back out, and flew later that day though.

[bikemech121]

Looks like the glider was trimmed to a low angle of attack (short front lines) as it had a lot of speed on. I also wonder if a speed system was used right at the moment of collapse as the pilot lifts his legs. Perhaps the speed system was hooked up somehow thus causing the reduced angle of attack.

[lineman55]

Ran into his own prop wash..simple

[naveenshanv]

Theend004500 nuff Said

[ParaglidingUnlimited]

@birdyboy500 I did not mean that the video was edited the way that would be miss leading but it is not whole. the pilot did few circles / patterns at the same altitude prior what we can see in this video here and that most likely helpted with creation pretty strong mechanical turbulence.

[blar31]

Well, bad idea to return on your pathway with risks of taking your own turbulence at this height. Many pilots doesn't care about turbulences who can still dangerous for 2 minutes and more. Lots of accidents occurs when everybody are playing around and forget these risks of collapsing thru sillage turbulances.

[ardvarkkkkk]

@winterka100 I agree with you that it is not worth it. I don't believe there is anything you can do but watch the conditions and hope your luck does not run out. Personally, I'll stick with my DC5. Lower performance but you can wad it up in a ball and it will straiten itself out and re inflate.

[winterka100]

@ardvarkkkkk I understand that. To me,that is too much a high price to pay for extra performance. These paragliders are in a zone of total unpredictability much like higher levels of river rafting etc. There is no science or physics formula that can overcome this area.Maybe a paraglider pilot will set me straight on how to overcome such a collapse at 50 to 150 ft with total confidence of no injury or death.

[ardvarkkkkk]

@winterka100 The problem is with the "chute. They have gone to ever higher aspect ratio for performance but the trade off is a higher incidence of collapse and twisting up with no hope of re inflating. The old low aspect "chutes were much safer.

[eb352mm]

that really wasnt a stunt, nonetheless the safety envelope is extremely small with paragliders and the fatality/injury rate is extremely high to considering how few paragliders there really are

[SimGameIt]

All sports have risks. Some just have more than others. Ive flown with Ivan. Hes a good pilot. I dont fly PPG yet but i fly fixed wing ultralights. If i start flying PPG ill have Jiri Sindler instruct me. But no matter how good the instructor, how good the pilot, or how good the equipment things happen.

We all know the risk even with fixed wings. We do it because of our love of aviation. But its kinda stupid for those dishing out the insults when they dont know anything about what happened.