Liz Cheney Echoes V.P. Dick - Part 1 (HQ)
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Joe is clearly an idealogue.
Lying Cheneys - the pathological lying father and daughter tag team. It's embarassing watching them repeating the same lies ad nauseum. They look like the walking dead. LIZ CHENY WILL SURELY TALK HER WAY INTO A SANATORIUM!Lying Cheneys - the pathological lying father and daughter tag team. It's embarassing watching them repeating the same lies ad nauseum. They look like the walking dead. LIZ CHENY WILL SURELY TALK HER WAY INTO A SANATORIUM!
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Why is it that the GOP needs to lie about the facts to support their arguments?
"In 30 polls taken since the 9/11 attacks, the average public approval for American use of torture is 44 percent, ranging as low as 15 percent and as high as 49 percent, depending on the vagaries of the question. When asked most directly if they think it is "acceptable to torture people suspected of terrorism," only 35 percent of Americans express approval."
(source: oregonlive. com)
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The incredible power of self-denial
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911 was payback for America's involvement in the Middle East. Shut down Israel and negotiate with the Arab countries or let Israel lead the west into a world nuclear war.
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@dawgnpony i got u with cheney but if we keep up with u american this u brit that or u white guy this versus u black guy that we all r fucked
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@growliberty I hope she runs, too. But not for the same reasons you do.
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@fearnoevilexceptbush OUTSTANDING post.
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@rhmariano Actually, not all of these people were captured on the battleground "fighting with our forces." Most of them happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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In the 50s, we heard the same garbage about communism. Anybody still sticking up for blackballing potential communists or executing the Rosenburg's now? In another fifty years we'll be hearing about how bizarre, and ineffective we were in the wake of 911. It would be nice if we got back to being on the right side of history and embraced the constitution again. As Franklin said, 'Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both'.
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What B.S. !
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Obama is cherry-picking intelligence??? What about the strong statements by The Dick cum suis on Saddams WMD, his nuclear programs, his acquiring of fissle materials in Africa, the ties between Iraq and El Qaida and the whole lot based on all this 'strong' intel that The Dick cum suis had. It's enough to make you weep.
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she has the same crooked smile.
I know about that history. How about very recent history you do not need to read about - 9/11. How do you then suggest we get the info - ask politely? As to suspected murderers, that's the difference, they're suspected. The three people that were "tortured" were terrorists! Intent on killing as MANY Americans. If a serial killer was captured and their was still a victim missing, what would you do?
rhmariano 2 years ago
Perhaps you are privy to more than I, but having not seen any evidence regarding these detainees and as I grew up in a country where 'presumed innocent' is the rule of law, I'll reserve any assumptions and refer to those being held in custody as alleged and/or suspect(s). You obviously place more value on American lives which makes you equal to those that place more value on Muslim lives. I'll leave you with "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." Mark Twain.
dawgnpony 2 years ago
personally i dont like torture, but when it comes to terrorists everything is off the table because they will kill me or my family if they had the chance so yes to terrorists but no to anybody else.
kopke30 2 years ago
kopke30, when these detainees are tortured, they are 'suspected' or 'alleged' terrorists. So, to protect ourselves and our families shall we begin torturing all suspected murderers? 2007 U.S. Murders: 16,929. What about protection from possible rape and violent crime? Rapes: 90,427 ; Violent Crime 1,408,337 (U.S. 2007). If you are truly located in Central America, I find your lack of understanding human rights astonishing given the fairly recent violent history of your county.
dawgnpony 2 years ago
these people were captured on the battle ground fighting with our forces. you are talking about police powers and law enforcement vs. winning a war. stick to the subject and stop bringing up arguments that don't make sense.
rhmariano 2 years ago
rhmariano: "these people were captured on the battle ground". Many innocent Afghanis and Iraqis were turned in for reward. Read some world history, it is not the first time the 'bounty' tactic was used to grab land or for revenge. As to "stick to the subject", kopke30's reasoning for torture being okay was "they will kill me or my family" therefore, following that logic, torture would apply to murder, and then other violent acts. This is the way it starts.
dawgnpony 2 years ago