CULLODEN 1746 - THE LAST HIGHLAND CHARGE
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@gorozon Well of course you are right the expedition failed but that wasn't when he was expelled from France. As long as France was at war with Britain the French king was happy to show favour to the Prince. However once the peace came he didn't just fall out of favour he was forcibly expelled from France itself.
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@gaconnochie this may be true , But how many influence had the failure of the Bonnie Charlie expedition on the sucessive French postions?
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@gorozon In the first place they were politicians. The French King helped Charles when it was expedient to do so. When it was helping France tactically. As soon as it was not expedient the Pretender was dropped like a brick and was officially exiled from France. Earlier Charles I may indeed have been brother-in-law to the French king but he also went to war against him in support of the French Protestants just several years after marrying Henrietta
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@gaconnochie i am not sure about French dont' really care on who was the King Of England -Considering that the Stuart had faimily ties with the Bourbon- the Charles I wife Henrietta was the daughter of Henri IV -and his daughter Henrietta Anna had married Philip I of Bourbon-Orléans .Where even the Hannoverian Kings were for tradition tied with the Austria The Big rival of the France in Europe in that period -
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@manfred898 It depends what part of the islands you are talking about. There were very few Catholics in Scotland - thoguh there were some. The mian religious struggle was between Presbyterians and Episcopalians. Both sides suppressed each other whenever they had the chance. Most Scottish Jacobites were Protestant Episcopalians who supported Chalres despite his religion not because of it. Before they crossed into England the Scottish leaders insisted any Catholic officers were demoted.
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@gorozon The French ambassador seeminly admitted that the French monarch didn't really care that much which part of the extended British royal family sat on the throne. The main aim for the French was to open another front in the war and get British troops off the continental mainland. After the rebellion failed France was happy enough to expel the Young Pretender from French territory too.
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@gorozon of course religion was a big part to do with it .charles was catholic after the crown of england,he would never be accepted ,even by the lowland scots
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Have y'all read The Outlander? It's a fiction novel that was written by someone that did the research.
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the expedition of Bonnie Prince Charlie i think must see in the contest of the Fight between England and France for the supremacy in Europe - For the France a Stuart as King of England mean Break the traditional alliance between England and Austria against the France - Religion question had not importance - in that period If you that England (protestant) was Allied with Austria (Catholic) against the France (Catholic) -and France was allied with Prussia (Protestant)
@Fitheach1 dont be daft you deluded moron. Bonnie Prince Charlie wanted the throne of GREAT BRITAIN, he had not interest in Scotland, other then to use Highland scots as his cannon fodder. If you want to talk about tyranny, it was the stuarts who were the tyrannts, they believed in religious absolutism. We would not have a parliament today if it was up to them
jed371 3 months ago 11
Nothing to do with the union. the Jacobites were religious fanatics who wanted the Stuarts back on the throne
jed371 4 months ago 9