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"So what is the task of apologetics? In the first place, it is not to tell the world that we're sorry that we're Christians. We don't apologize for being believers in Christ."
- R.C. Sproul
(I think that quote is meant to be taken as a joke in one sense, and a rebuke in another.)
Here R.C. Sproul discusses why apologetics is important and why it isn't just for "people in ivory towers".
Apologists are salesman. Even the world does not trust salesmen.
StringPlunker 3 weeks ago
@EqualAndFree
by definition it is a hasty generalization, so let's get that out of the way, your argument itself is fallacious. You have a biased view on Christian apologist, and because you disagree with them, you resort to saying that the whole Christian apologist approach is fundamentally flawed therefore all of their arguments and evidence is wrong. It's ok if you disagree, but don't project that fact on over to dismissing it as a whole without refuting individual arguments.
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
look up hasty generalization.
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
contradiction right? First off, I am against scientist arguing about philosophical topics, unless science is being used to prove the natural validity of something. I have never heard anyone address a contradiction with either of the two examples you gave, so unless you want to be specific about a certain instance, then I will conclude you are being intellectually dishonest or you are flat out lying. So far, your arguments have been fallacious.
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
depending on the apparent contradiction at hand, the apologist would argue accordingly. Once again, you have presupposed that the apologist would argue according to the way you say he will. You presupposed his argument in advance and generalized it, I addressed this flaw in your argument already. A lot of times, there are deeper things addressed in supposed bible contradictions and depending on the case, it is addressed accordingly. Also you said scientists questioning a BIble
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
Ok I give that to you, you are absolutely right, you in fact never attacked anyone on the personal level, I guess I exaggarated that a bit right? I think you see my initial point now. I can easily sit here and point out the weakness in the skeptics world view, and their reasoning or lack thereof, but why argue on such a general term? My point was, that arguing based on generalized presuppositions instead of addressing the argument itself, is weak and generic.
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
though. What better way to try to scrutanize an argument than by addressing everything but the argument itself right? Ad-hominem attacks are the usual indicator of the losing side. Christian Apologist, have demolished your world views, using the highest form of rhetoric, Logic.
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
what a strong statement, "ALL". The fact that you cluster up all apologist into your own perception of them, without in fact addressing what they say says a lot about your argument. BTW, when two people debate, each side is representing the affirmative position for what they are defending, so starting with the premise that your conclusion is true, is what everyone does, just as you are arguing here that your premise about Christian apologist's is true. I love your contradictions
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago
@EqualAndFree
I love how your sarcastically practicing apologetics for your anti-biblical world view. here's the anti-Christian apologist argumentative method. Point out what appears to be a flaw in the Christian apologist, choose a rediculously and exaggerated, as well as illogical argument and assume you have figured Christian Apologetics.
step two. Attack everything but the argument itself, do anything but attack the argument itself, call the Christian ignorant, brainwashed, etc.
ivantheterrableone 4 months ago