I have often said that violence only leads to more violence but Ran Prieur illustrates the point another way. His parable shows how violence in human society spreads like a virus. I think we should work to find a better way to live.
@Nimadan I dont understand why you criticise RP in your first paragraph when in fact in your second one you seem to say he is right. Do you think that the spread of violence can be stopped without the use of violence? There must have been some example in history, but does that generally work that way? If a tribe has many weapons, even without attacking they can threaten neighbours and drain their resources or economies, forcing peaceful tribes to die or attack the bullies.
It's not "wrong and naive"; it's moralistic and ungrounded. The fact, that RP can only relate to this possibility as the "Paradigm of the Violent Tribe", shows that after all this time, he's still an urban intellectual TRAPPED in his head. I wonder if he even owns any weapons?
In point of fact, few tribes that had to learn defensive skills resisted the temptation to become marauders themselves. Among the Amerinds, Hopis were on of the rare tribes whose warriors weren't raiders.
Well, that was entirely wrong and naive. If the other tribes develop weapons and learn to defend themselves, the paradigm of the violent tribe (not to mention the tribe itself, which is far more important) is contained. Being able to defend oneself does NOT imply that one will become the aggressor, killing and enslaving those around you.
Ran is awesome, he looks like Keanu Reeves.
MrIsaiah722 8 months ago
RAN PREIUR IS 50 YEARS OLD. LOOK AT HIM.
zombiedude24 9 months ago
@Nimadan I dont understand why you criticise RP in your first paragraph when in fact in your second one you seem to say he is right. Do you think that the spread of violence can be stopped without the use of violence? There must have been some example in history, but does that generally work that way? If a tribe has many weapons, even without attacking they can threaten neighbours and drain their resources or economies, forcing peaceful tribes to die or attack the bullies.
SubtUtiles 1 year ago
Gotta agree with that one.
0rangePete 2 years ago
@calorion:
It's not "wrong and naive"; it's moralistic and ungrounded. The fact, that RP can only relate to this possibility as the "Paradigm of the Violent Tribe", shows that after all this time, he's still an urban intellectual TRAPPED in his head. I wonder if he even owns any weapons?
In point of fact, few tribes that had to learn defensive skills resisted the temptation to become marauders themselves. Among the Amerinds, Hopis were on of the rare tribes whose warriors weren't raiders.
Nimadan 2 years ago 2
Well, that was entirely wrong and naive. If the other tribes develop weapons and learn to defend themselves, the paradigm of the violent tribe (not to mention the tribe itself, which is far more important) is contained. Being able to defend oneself does NOT imply that one will become the aggressor, killing and enslaving those around you.
calorion 2 years ago