The Intelligence Squared Debate - Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (Part 1/5)

In no way, sir, did either Fry or Hitchens say they hated Catholics--just because you criticize something doesn't mean you hate its followers. Both men have in fact expressed, again and again, that all humanity must be allowed to believe whatever they wish.
That you believe in a sky daddy doesn't make you stupid...I just think it makes you delusional, and incorrect. Does not make you stupid, does not even make you a bad person... Disagreeing isn't automatically a flame war.

wow hitch and fry are two of my favourite people

First off.... Insulting people, no matter what their beliefs are makes you look inane... Not only that, but also ignorant...

Second... A lot of atheists are retards.... A lot of religious folk are retarded... I believe the real argument is for or against "ORGANIZED RELIGION" Hitchens never says he hates people's personal beliefs or would deny them their cathartic experiences... He hates religion as it is put into use by us, humans.
Religious fanatics like Sarah Palin are what we fight!!!

That I believe that there is a supreme being does not make me stupid. Faith is believing in things unseen. My own personal life experience has taught me that there many things that cannot be explained away by science. If believing in a God and living my life with forgiveness, love and honor of my fellow man then I am guilty of those things. None of us know until we die what the truth is, either we will be worm food or we will have to account for our actions. That said, anger serves no one.

Thank you so much for posting this!

get a fucking life and shut the fuck up about the fucking CATHOLIC STATE. using capital letter isn't going to do anything.

what kind of state would that be? priests raping kids and getting away with it? women working as baby machines and not doing anything worthwhile?

you are the biggest moron i've ever seen. get a life, and get off your computer. you're an embarassment.

-> Religion promotes rape, torture, murder and every conceivable atrocity. Why purposely create a hellish nightmare? What's more fucked up is that they believe that they're spreading love and charity(and also trying to impress an imaginary friend). Is there anyone more truly evil than one that commits rape, torture and murder in the name of love? Religion is a disease. Fuck you amaquala, the world would be better without you and your fantasies.

I've read your posts and you're just a broken record like all religious people are. You don't think or actually take account of reality, you just repeat your fucking absurd delusions again and again as if that's going to convince people it's true. Religion,faith(willful and for some reason admired stupidity) and god are the most disgusting and darkest inventions ever created by man. Religion is truly the most wretched pestilence that humanity has ever encountered. -->

You think that 50 years of contraception will render the secularist population inert? I have already explained the orwellion similarities between communist regimes and religious ones. I am not saying that catholics supported the nazi movement but you cannot just explain away its involvement in anti sematic ideals. I see you have dodged my statement on stem cell and aids, oh well I guess thats what I should expect from someone who cant justify his/her beliefs.

Secularism is a failed system - it cannot sustain itself! Just look at the birthrates of any secular democracy - and you will see that! They won't be around by 2050! Communism most certainly is an atheistic system! And Catholics supported Hitler because they hadn't the choice of supporting a Catholic State! It's so odd that Catholics have no choice but to support secularist politicians and their agendas!! that must change!

Bring back the CATHOLIC STATE and avoid demographic wipeout!