The Intelligence Squared Debate - Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs. The Catholics (Part 1/5)

-> Religion promotes rape, torture, murder and every conceivable atrocity. Why purposely create a hellish nightmare? What's more fucked up is that they believe that they're spreading love and charity(and also trying to impress an imaginary friend). Is there anyone more truly evil than one that commits rape, torture and murder in the name of love? Religion is a disease. Fuck you amaquala, the world would be better without you and your fantasies.

I've read your posts and you're just a broken record like all religious people are. You don't think or actually take account of reality, you just repeat your fucking absurd delusions again and again as if that's going to convince people it's true. Religion,faith(willful and for some reason admired stupidity) and god are the most disgusting and darkest inventions ever created by man. Religion is truly the most wretched pestilence that humanity has ever encountered. -->

You think that 50 years of contraception will render the secularist population inert? I have already explained the orwellion similarities between communist regimes and religious ones. I am not saying that catholics supported the nazi movement but you cannot just explain away its involvement in anti sematic ideals. I see you have dodged my statement on stem cell and aids, oh well I guess thats what I should expect from someone who cant justify his/her beliefs.

Secularism is a failed system - it cannot sustain itself! Just look at the birthrates of any secular democracy - and you will see that! They won't be around by 2050! Communism most certainly is an atheistic system! And Catholics supported Hitler because they hadn't the choice of supporting a Catholic State! It's so odd that Catholics have no choice but to support secularist politicians and their agendas!! that must change!

Bring back the CATHOLIC STATE and avoid demographic wipeout!

For starters the fascism movement in the twentieth century was very much catalysed by the catholic church who at the time preached anti sematism. Communism was not an atheistic system, much to the contrary in fact. The population of the USSR looked up to stalin and lennon with almost religious obediance. Finally, secularism is not a failed system, if it had its way we would have less aids and more stem cell research.

I certainly don't buy into that view! Secuarism has led to a disgusting and incompetent system - and if you can't see that - then its time for a little self criticism! Fascism Communism and secularism are all failed atheistsic systems - that eventually buckle under their own inadequacies! They are also brutal! Uugh!

Bring back the CATHOLIC STATE and save us from demographic decimation and Islamisation - brought to you by secular humanism!!

amaqula

If the catholic church had its way, which it does to a certain extent, we would buying into such sadistic innuendo as the pope's comment that aids in africa is terrible but condoms are worse. I hope you would agree with me in saying that the world view of the catholic church is disgusting in many ways. I would also like to point out that chinese communism is not the only alternative to a religious world. Secularism is the only way forward.

why would a catholic agree to do this? lol

What a rare opportunity; Fry and Hitchens at the same table.
Fantastic.

Thanks alot for your videos as always.

the french settled louisiana (the only primarily catholic state in the south) and ran the slave trade there for decades, not to mention killing most the natives.

and btw, muslims are guilty of all this too in asia and africa. it's all religion, not just christianity and especially not just catholicism