Simeons hCG diet protocol and ketosis.

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To further explain a previous comment about hCG combined with a VLCD (very low calorie diet) almost instantaneously placing your body into a state of ketosis, relative information provided below.

As a side note, there is a diet referred to as "the ketogenic diet" (In many aspects, it is much akin to Adkins) - which has gained and lost favor over the years, and was used in the treatment of childhood epilepsy.

I'm no expert on that diet, but from the overview, it consists of variable fats and proteins consumed, and carbohydrate intake limited to 100 grams per day.

The Simeon's protocol takes it much further, not only limiting carb intake, but fat intake as well, and severely restricting daily protein intake.

KETOSTIX - nice to use, especially when you're shifting your diet between the meat & veggie choices, or if you aren't hungry and skip some of your choices.

I posed a question as to why I would be testing positive for ketones on hCG the very 1st day of the VLCD vs. not throwing any ketones on a 2 day water fast (and taking 5-7 days to test postitive while on Adkins)

The answer as I see it: because normally - on the 2 day fast the body would convert glycogen... if hCG had no effect as far as fat conversion - I SHOULD have been burning glycogen on the 1st few days of the protocol as well. So hCG either accelerates fat conversion, or blocks glucagon release from the pancreas so the body is forced to skip the glycogen and go directly to using fat.

When on high carbohydrate diets the body can usually expect an energy source to keep entering the body. But in the state of ketosis the body has to become efficient at mobilizing fats as energy.

If the body has no further use for ketones they can simply be excreted through urine as a waste product. This means that at times your body will be peeing out body fat. Ketosis has a protein sparing effect, assuming that you are consuming adequate quantities of protein and calories in the first place. Once in ketosis the body actually prefers ketones to glucose. Since the body has copious quanities of fat this means that there is no need to oxidize protein to generate glucose through gluconeogenesis.

Another benefit of ketosis has to do with the low levels of insulin in the body, which causes greater lipolysis & free glycerol release compared to a normal diet when insulin is around 80-120. Insulin has a lipolysis blocking effect, which can inhibit the use of fatty acids as energy. Also when insulin is brought to low levels many beneficial hormones are released in the body such as growth hormone & other powerful growth factors.

The last benefit has to do with the fact that a ketone body is an inefficient fuel source due to the fact that when the fatty acid is converted to a ketone body it contains 7 calories. This means that the normal pound of fat has less than 3500 calories.

Other than hormonal reasons the main reason why catabolism occurs is because protein will be broken down, or catabolized, to make glucose. This is because the brain uses glycogen, upwards of 25% of the body's glucose. When carbohydrates are restricted, the body will still need glucose for the brain, so it is forced to breakdown protein mostly from your own muscle tissue.

Ketosis is different because when in the state of ketosis the brain will prefer ketones over glucose. For the dieter this is very good because the body will not have to break down protein for energy. In turn the body will be forced to use its fat reserves, a.k.a. your love handles, for its energy. This is why ketosis is such a good method of dieting.

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[negritaFL]

Delman, pretty please can you help me. I am on P2 VLCD13 and I have only lost 7lbs. My starting weight on 3/15 was 168.8 and I have stalled at 160-161.8 since Sunday 3/20. I have not cheated on the diet. Apple Day, no release. 3 California Kickers, no release. Its discouraging going 1 week with no release. I purchased the Ketone Strips this morning and my test color is in the 40-80mg range so I guess something is happening. Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[delmem]

@negritaFL If you're using Rx might try skipping a dose tomorrow. I'm still trying to determine what goes on with a stall, if it's just water exchange or something far more beneficial. Wouldn't be too worried, one day soon the dam will break & the losses will continue. The average loss at day 10 VLCD is 6% and you're just 2 lbs shy of that, also I've had people do apple days with delayed reaction - no loss the next day but 3 days later down 2+ lbs. Don't be discouraged, just wait for it.

[awwyeahme2]

what if the stick is practically clear???? does that mean u r not burning any fat?

[delmem]

@awwyeahme2 Not at all, depends on the person, hydration & activity level.. I usually run 1/2 way up the stick, a friend was all the way positive & some I've worked with are just slightly into trace - all hitting the 10% loss in 30 days or better.

[2Ryled]

@tickyul : I have found by adding in choc d helps makes the keytones go up. I take 3-4 nite w/no problm. Work up to that tho. Or if Im in a hurry/no choc, I take a spoonful of evco and put some sweetner on it and eat it that way. Its kinda like eating the inside of a mounds bar (kinda). Might be discusting to some. Always gets me in the higher range. Im in the 80s now after being in the mild range.

[100pomegranates]

I love how right to the point you are, lol :) I have to tell you, I was up late one night this week and came across one of your videos somewhere on-line, one about mixing hCG with the silver...and you dropped the bottle... :D My husband was asleep in the other room and I had to clasp my hand over my mouth so as to not wake him up while I was laughing. Thank you!!! :) As a newbie I really appreciate the info.

[awwyeahme2]

@delmem oh thanks

[sara31tx]

I can believe the water vs results theory..when I drink lots of water I get a trace to low level keytones but when i don't drink as much water I get high levels..makes you wonder..Also the time a day matters..first thing in the morning is the best time I think..I get high levels first thing in the morning vs..mid day..I am losing about 2 pounds a day..started at 179 down to 160..I cheated a couple days which really set me back..bad idea

[tickyul]

Maybe someone can help me. I find that I do better in heavy ketosis, feel more energy, less hunger, better mood...etc,etc. The problem is I am having a hard time getting my strips to go above a weak or low level of ketones. The times I have felt the best was when I had the strips deep purple. I limit my carbs to less than 5gm a day, limit protein to adequate levels (20%), eat mostly fat. I am kinda stuck with the last 10 lbs (5ft7,160lb). Any suggestions are welcome.

[tickyul]

Some of things I have observed while following a high fat/low carb diet: The higher the ketosis (within reason, I am non diabetic so dka is not a problem)=the better I feel, less hunger, better sense of well being, more energy, less cravings, to name a few. I have heard people say that if they are in ketosis, the level does not matter, that is definitely NOT the case for me. The ketogenic diet for me is hard at first, it takes me about 3 weeks just to feel normal. I also limit water & protein.