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Uploaded by on Sep 25, 2009

-Someone is cheating!
When one attention is bought to an account which has zero video views, and 5 subscriptions one eyebrow is raised. All the accounts here are blank with the exception of the 5 favorites, all subscribed 2 weeks ago.
http://www.youtube.com/user/howieam
Joined September 05, 2009
ZERO video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

Similarly :
http://www.youtube.com/user/roofingator
joined August 24, 2008
85 video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/user/ghynes1
joined December 30, 2006
1,210 video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/user/procambarusclarkii
Joined June 20, 2009
2 video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/user/theweav70
Joined March 28, 2009
574 video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/user/samboesBHAF
Joined March 28, 2009
413 video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/user/deadzebramonkey
Joined April 18, 2007
434 video views, subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/user/Mooja12
Joined April 17, 2007
~1917 video views (now hidden), subscribed to same 5 channels 2 weeks ago

Mooja is interesting as not only is the join date within one day of deadzebramonkey, but also after the whistle was blown came alive having not left any signs of life for the last 18 months and added favorites and featured videos (in line with the suspected protagonists views) and comments in the suspected protagonists demeanor.

These are just a few examples. Blank, largely dormant accounts do not all converge on one lesser known channel, and all subscribe to the same 5 channels in a narrow window. People just dont behave like this.


-Someone is gaming the videos.

Even the IP logs will not really help here as a 3rd party is almost certainly involved. (accounts spreading years all coming alive to favorite the same 5 videos (and only them) then return to dormancy).

Circumstantial evidence is the best that is available.

It may well have been that such activity was initiated by a third party. However some of the sock accounts (noteably mooja12) then came alive having done nothing for 18 months and added favorites in line with these channels, and defended them by ridicule, using the word genius (a mannerism of howtheworldworks).

It is known that Lee Doren (howtheworldworks) has strong links with all these accounts.
It is known that Lee Doren (howtheworldworks) is the Crasher in Chief of an organization that uses internet marketing.
It is known that Lee Doren (howtheworldworks) is, to put it mildly, a subscriber whore.

These facts essentially provide means and motivation.

It should also be born in mind that:
Lee Doren (howtheworldworks) made an attack video suggesting that the guy who initially uncovered this (cristoballs) take down his video (which he claimed was defaming him) or he would take further action to clear his name. An interesting course of action given the clear pattern noted above.
On the whistle being blown, Policytranslated hid their subscriber list. One cant but help feel the easiest way to scotch such rumor if true would have been to have left them open. I know I would have. There are only about 500, and the account is essentially inactive.

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  • @halflifeproductionz

    HTWW - 0

    Thunderfoot - OVER 9000!

  • @whedonfreak976 Lol let me pose as HTWW for a moment. "Hey, genius, guess what? I'm not a crook or a hack, you know why? Because my subscribers are real subscribers, and the conspiring left is trying to ruin our great country. Genius, do research," Genius being synonymous to dumbass in the way he uses it against everyone, which insults are basically the basis of all of his arguments. He does need to grow up if he wants to be taken seriously by more people than the few hundred who believe him

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  • I have posted comments on HowTheWorkWorks's channel and I haven't been blocked yet, although if he does block me then I can only conclude that he is exactly the kind of person I think he is.

    I have noticed that he censors ratings on videos where he doesn't get a good approval rating.

    He is probably sponsored by someone, after all, he managed to get on the Glen Beck show and get a televised debate with the guy from TheYoungTurks so I can only assume he is a mouthpiece for the right-wing agenda.

  • thunderfoot you are a legend. we need a coalition to fight these puppet fucks like crowder as well. this is not only a fight agtainst religion, but against right wing corporatist shills.

  • If Lee or one of his sock accounts has the audacity to respond to this video, they won't have a very compelling rebuttal.

  • HTWW blocked me from commenting on his videos for merely criticizing one of his videos. I didn't say anything offensive but merely explained why I thought he was wrong. I thought he was all about American values such as freedom of speech? I guess not. Not when it is to his disadvantage.

  • I love how all of these real accounts not only have the same 5 channels on every account, but the 5 channels are all in the same order. It's so blatently obvious he created these accounts. But to LIE about it to the point of calling someone an idiot for calling him on his bullshit, is completely hilarious and predicatable of this self centered, arrogant, conceited douchebag.

  • wow I subscribe to both these channels(thunderfoot and HTWW) and have for some time. I agree with you completely that this is all circumstantial evidence at best that someone hired a third party to increase these accounts subscriber numbers.

    However, that is as far as you can really go especially considering the political nature of the channels in question.

    With the nature of politics it is just as reasonable that his ideological opposites did it as it was his supporters or himself .

  • This looks like just the kind of "persona management software" that Aaron Barr of HBGary Federal gave to hacker group Anonymous. Okay, they actually took his e-mails, after he "stuck his d*** in" their beehive to paraphrase S. Colbert, so basically Barr asked for it. Begged for it, if you ask me. I wonder if CEIdotorg was one of HBGary Federal's clients? Or did they buy their "persona management software" from somebody else?

  • @jdggearhead right sure gearhead, and hey i love driving you crazy punk, that is all you are, a uneducated idiot, who has no brains, and me lazy? well if you call taking care of a sick person being being lazy try it sometimes jackass but you and your pig are too busy are you not? now go get the pig, and hey people notice how he changed the subject when i told him how messed up his climate gate crap was, as usual gearhead you are a liar

  • @jdggearhead i do clean just not the bunkbeds and you try it you would fall on your ass so fast you little shit it would not be funny i bet you do not even have a company, but we will never know because you supposedly named it after yourself but, you will give out your wife's name but not the name of your business jackass, duh and when do you take care of 3 kids? i see you on the computer, a lot for a person who supposedly owns his business yeah right, just keep lying gearhead no one cares.

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