BBC Nuclear Weapons films: the shame of children's anti-civil defence brainwashing propaganda.mpg

http://nige.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dirkwood-report-summary6.pdf Some brief extracts of the archive history of shameful BBC children's TV anti-civil defence pro-unilateral disarmament nuclear weapons brainwashing propaganda, by Charlie Brooker on BBC2 at 10pm, Tuesday 25 Jan 2011. Brief clips are out of copyright or are covered by "fair trading" copyright clause for non-profit purpose of criticism.

Samuel Glasstone and Philip J. Dolan, "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons", 3rd ed., 1977, pages 545-8:

"The high incidence of flash burns caused by thermal radiation among both fatalities and survivors in Japan was undoubtedly related to the scanty clothing being worn. ... If there had been an appreciable cloud cover or haze below the burst point, the thermal radiation would have been attenuated somewhat and the frequency of flash burns would have been much less. Had the weather been cold, fewer people would have been outdoors and they would have been wearing more extensive clothing. Both the number of people and individual skin areas exposed to thermal radiation would then have been greatly reduced, and there would have been fewer casualties from flash burns. ... The death rate in Japan was greatest among individuals who were in the open at the time of the explosions; it was less for persons in residential (wood-frame and plaster) structures and least of all for those in concrete buildings. ... Had they been forewarned and knowledgeable about areas of relative hazard and safety, there would probably have been fewer casualties even in structures that were badly damaged."

"Orlov" is a Russian noble family, and the French for egg is "oeuf". It's nuclear anti-civil defence children's propaganda and was broadcast repeatedly on Children's TV, not just in the 1970s but also in the 1980s. The BBC was full of intellectually sophisticated CND supporters who saw an immense danger from nuclear deterrence, but had never bothered to read chapter 12 ("Principles of protection") of the 1962 edition of Dr Glasstone's "Effects of Nuclear Weapons": disarmament talk led to WWII.

The BBC passed Orlov off as a spoof on Ludwig, a children's animation. Soviet General ORLOV is also the fanatical, megalomaniacal enemy in the 007 movie Octopussy, 1983.

See www.glasstone.blogspot.com

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[mankillsquare]

In fact, why have you cut out the part with the guy failing to remember Orlov?

[camera400]

He was about 18 and the clip is from 30 years ago. Please subtract and work out why he "failed to remember Orlov". Also take a look at Orlov in the 1983 007 film Octopussy. This spoof dates back to 1981, not 2011. If you look at the frames in the cartoon you can see they're hand done animation frames, not flash animations. This was repeated at times during the 1980s, but lost impact after Gorbachev was pushed into reforms by oil price falls (cutting back USSR siberian oil revenue by half)!

[camera400]

I think what has happened here is the "Chinese whispers" effect. Someone watched this, realized this was a spoof of Ludwig, and jumped to the conclusion - helped by Brooker's introduction and voice-over on the spinning globe BBC lead-in - that the whole thing is a spoof. Actually this reaction is a perfect example of the confusion that occurs when you take something crazy and then add a spoof introduction to it. People don't know how much of it is spoof. The Orlov spoof is now 30 years old!

[mankillsquare]

It's a brooker spoof! Why do you think there's the intro with "classic egg-shaped animation that everyone is sure to remember in 30 years time" ? And why is there the skit with the interviewer asking the guy to pretend to remember Orlov? Why would you british propoganda contain the line "i suppose all animals are ultimately unknowable, even our parents" ? It's a spoof remake. And it's easy to make things look vintage. Do you actually remember seeing this in the 70s?

[camera400]

The voice-over by Brooker and the interview with a teenager about something from 30 years ago are the spoof. The actual animation however is a 30 year old spoof of Ludwig children's animation, sanctioned by the same group of left wing BBC pro-USSR appeasement, anti-civil defence fanatics that produced the later Threads and QED: Guide to Armageddon trash, and the recent Horizon: Science Under Attack rubbish. The BBC are still at it. Are you also claiming Brooker faked the Threads and QED junk?

[camera400]

You could try sending the BBC producer a message asking if the Orlov spoof is 30 years old or freshly minted by Brooker's team, but try to do it before 1 April.

[Kurtlane]

Or just "Western nukes are for war' (implying that Soviet ones are for peace.)

It continued until Chernobyl buried the "Soviet nukes are for peace" idea.

[Kurtlane]

Yes, I remember the nuclear kitsch of 1980s. Actually, here in the U.S. it began in 1979. There was an election campaign, with Carter vs. Reagan, and if anyone was for Reagan, he was for nuclear war.

Once it started, the nuclear kitsch went on and on. And almost in entirety it was coming from the left. You know, "Better red than dead." "Let's all turn Commi so Commies won't nuke us."

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[noodlezombie]

@camera400

It's amazing how full of crap you are. It's a spoof made in flash with a filter effect added to make it appear like it was made in the 70's. It's painfully obviously if you've watched any amount of flash animation.

Looking at your channel I'm not quite sure what your stance is supposed to be. Are you claiming that nuclear weapons weren't actually that deadly and all the claims to the contrary were evil leftist propaganda?