It's still the same music!

Well, after some failed attempts to upload a comparison between Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis and "Through the Fires..." from the Troy soundtrack (because the theme used is "Rememeber Me" and them douchebags at Warner won't let music owned by them be used in videos), here are some more similarities in scores.

I added the Holst-Gladiator issue again because it was linked to the next ones.

Be sure to check out "Through the Fires..
." and see how blatantly copied it is from "Thomas Tallis".

Film scores forever, man!

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• film
• score
• classical
• music
• plagiarism
• rip
• off
• gustav
• holst
• mars
• bringer
• war
• wagner
• stravinsky
• hans
• zimmer
• john
• williams
• star
• wars
• dark
• city
• james
• horner

[HikariPickles]

see, star wars is a bad example if you want to talk about uncreative plagiarizing, because like others have said, it was completely intentional to make the score uncannily similar to mars and the like because the star wars movies were supposed to remind people of the early action-adventure serials that would show on tv when tv was like a newborn baby-- in those campy serials the background music would have BEEN holst and stravinsky and such, to make for less work and less copyright stuff

[RichardKleiner]

@HikariPickles the point is to show that, if Zimmer was sued for plagiarism, there were countless other examples, including Star Wars, that could be sued as well

[JairCrawford]

I'm fairly certain that Lucas instructed Williams to write Star Wars based closely on the temp tracks, which was mostly Korngold, Stravinsky, and Holst. What I like about John Williams though is that he makes his score sound original at the same time. Yes there are similarities, but, there are only maybe a few bars of 'The Planets' that make me think of Star Wars. Most of the time it sounds quite different.

[RichardKleiner]

@JairCrawford true. It's a known fact that JW never listens to the temp track, and the only time he did was, you guessed it, Star Wars.

[ribsngibs]

Hi; what's the Stravinsky piece before the Dark City clip? Also the Rite of Spring?

[RichardKleiner]

@ribsngibs that is correct. The movement is Evocation of the Ancestors.

[arrogancy]

I'm trying to figure out why people are surprised that a composer used a composition for a planet named after the Roman god of war...for a movie about a Roman warrior. Do you really think that wasn't purposeful?

[JoeSnyderwalk]

Yes, another one of these :) love 'em! Film scores forever, indeed.

[antmaneraser]

only so many ways to create moods with scales...some are quite uncanny though but then again every nickel back song sounds about the sounds

[JairCrawford]

@clix411 lol Well the Jaws main theme is a two note ostinato. There are a LOT of two note ostinatos out there. lol What I mean is, John Williams has written so much music. I think you'll find the majority of his music is quite original. It's just, some of his most famous scores are among his less original works. Like the original Star Wars and Jaws.

[clix411]

@JairCrawford As much as it hurt me when I found out... John Williams as heavily "borrowed" ALOT from old composers especially Dvorak's No. 9 New World Symphony... come on... Jaws much? haha To the fullest, combine that with one of the movements of Rite of Spring and there is the complete Jaws score ;) I cried when i found out haha

[WolfySnackrib666]

Omg, when you showed that part that was similar in Deep Blue Sea and Shrek, you should have also taken the part of Sixth Day with Arnold Schwarzenegger that is damn near identical to Deep Blue Sea.

[23WhiteFlag]

Braveheart theme and Bicentennial Man theme by James Horner is the most unbelievable self rip-off theme EVER.

[rapidpossumsex]

hey! this was a very good video and exactly what i was looking for... irrefutable evidence of plagiarism by JW