TO THE GLORY OF ANTINOUS: ANTINOPOLIS

Antinopolis was founded on October 30, 130CE by Roman Emperor Hadrian on the east bank of the Nile River in Egypt near the spot where his young lover, Antinous, drowned and resurrected as a God. The entire City served as a shrine and temple to honor his love for Antinous.

Homosexual love between Men was openly celebrated by Antinoan society and its government as a gift from the Gods and the highest form of human love. The City was the cultural and religious center of the Cult of Antinous, which spread around the eastern Mediterranean to Rome and was a greater religion throughout the Roman Empire than Christianity for more than 200 years.

Antinopolis was created by Hadrian as a Greco-Roman city in Egypt with a primary Greek culture. It's citizens were actually called "New Greeks". The City prospered as a cultural and religious center for more than 500 years, but declined as the Roman Empire and its power diminished and fell. Antinopolis was finally abandoned during the 10th century and was in extensive ruins by the 12th century.

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[saadaya]

strange irony in that a city teeming with homosexuals is now in ruins, a barren desert, and is being celebrated by gays because that's exactly how the religious right groups would want to see a gay city: in ruins. The inundation is another strange irony of the faith of Antinous: fundies still love to blame gays for weather disturbance & earthquakes. it's important to remember Antinoopolis but more important than the historical city is the Antinoopolis of the future, the hopes of gay people

[EROSGODOFGAYS]

Like Memphis the capital of the Old Kingdom of Egypt, like Akhenaten, like Luxor, like Karnak, like ancient Persepolis the great capital of the Persian Empire, like Sparta, like ancient Athens the cradle of Western philosophy and civilization, like Carthage, like ancient Rome ..... the cities of man, heterosexual and homosexual, all fall into ruin. So too is the time coming when the great cities of today will themselves lie in ruins. Antinoopolis was a great city and part of our Gay history.

[roddymark]

Previous picture on my site was Andrei Marich, killed in Soviet invasion of Czech. in August, 1968. Present picture is of the "shopping bag man" in Bejing in the Tienanmin square rebellion in China.

[roddymark]

Ok. not very good at social justice struggle. You did 3 videos on same person, and he was lunch for a crocodile on Nile River. You must have some other guys from history, Aleksandre of Macedonia for sure. But Pyotr Ilich Czikovski also. Today, we have neo-Nazis all over in Eastern Europe. Some want to kill Roma, others like to kill Jews, everyone want to kill you guys. You need better strategy if you want to have freedom. We hve to resist the new fascist or they will be like Communists.

[roddymark]

Sorry but I used computer in a monastery where I was visiting till today. They have channel, but not me. My cousin is monastic here, but the Superior of the monastery is nice. He says that we hate most in others what we fear most in ourselves. Some Communists were like that. They hated ones who wanted to be free because they were afraid of freedom. I taught my son and daughter against hatred and prejudice toward anyone.

[roddymark]

But in such case, no one is actually free. Then you have to be prisoner to fear of "them" and "not us." The rich have to fear the poor, the white ones fear the black, the Protestant fears the catholic, and so no one is free, everyone is in prison of fear, like Kafka, Mr. K and the Trial. That is the centre of that story. Mr K was prisoner to his own self, and fear and hate are prisons, but each one is his own prison and his own prisoner and no one is free. What is that worth?

[EROSGODOFGAYS]

Mankind's struggle is not one between "good" and "evil". It is an on-going fight between those who truly believe in equal human rights for everyone, with no exceptions, and those who believe in rights only for an "us" and not for "them". The "us" can be based on religion, race or wealth, but in all cases the intent and purpose of their bigotry and discrimination is the same: to include only some and exclude all others.

[roddymark]

Mine is Alexandre Dubcek and his cabinet, and some other. I looked at video on UTube of Prague Spring and 5 times I saw myself as a young boy once on top of tank, and and twice in front of USSR tanks. It is good to remind us that freedom is all or none: if everybody does not have it, then nobody does. A country is only democracy if democracy and freedom is for everybody in the country. What good was our blood in Praha, if it was not for everyone everywhere, not just for us.

[roddymark]

Excuse me for interfering, but the commemoration of the holocaust under Nazis has a great deal to do with social issues of present for Gay people, just like for Jews. Social issues of today can't be solved without a political base such as the holocaust. You see that even some who struggled in Prague Spring with Dubcek think its was OK to kill Gay people so long as they were not Jewish Gay people, but only because they were Jews. You have to have better strategy. But you have your own heroes.

[roddymark]

I don't think this is so much of an accurate story about it. Bishop's did not become so powerful until after Charlemagne, in the West. In the beginning, Christian communities had a lot to offer, but when they became the Imperial Religion, then they really lost their direction. It is easy for the persecuted to become the persecutor --- look at Palestinians suffering, for example. But it seems to me that the biggest persecutor of Gay people are Gay people who hate themselves or are afraid. Rado