http://www.ThisIsReality.org In reality, there is no such thing as clean coal. Join Reality. We're going to challenge the clean coal myth and make sure misleading articles, false statements and other hype don't go unanswered.
@keller43561 People are just short-sighted. Climate change is gradual. We have time (or so people think). Except that even if we stopped all GHG/CO2 production today, the atmosphere would continue to absorb it. There's a lag. It's also on a global scale. People in the US aren't going to care about people in the Mediterranean. Combine that with political-infighting and you get the seeming apathy of our country to do anything to significantly address this issue. It's so frustrating.
@keller43561 That's why I worded it the way I did. The major consensus is that humans contribute to global warming, but how much is disputed. Is it 20%? Is it 80%? I happen to think it's somewhere in the middle, which is an admittedly large range. But the planet is a complex system and I don't presume to know the exact numbers. No one does. That's why there's so much controversy. Either way, I think the argument shouldn't matter. Becoming energy efficient and enegy independent is a good idea.
actually...there is a consensus among a majority of world climatologists that anthopogenic sources are the MAIN cause for present global warming....believe the view is held by 60% ish...not a VAST majority but still
you cant deny the ludicrous implications made by the clean coal ads ( ie american future is in coal) ...BTW Carbon Capture Sequestration is impractical and will never be implemented on any substantial scale....so stop giving all the pro "clean coal" nut jobs a false sense of legitimacy...
ever heard of black lung? how bout lung cancer? or maybe toxic waste? did i forget to mention it pollutes the air? oh, and just a small thing to add, its causes GLOBAL WARMING...coal isn't just dirty...its one of the dirtiest sources of energy in the world
@obiwannotanikan - I used to agree with your sentiment that renewables could not meet our grid demands, but I think some of this new technology changes the game. Americans do need to cut down on their energy use in general, but with recent R&D, our demand is reachable. The entire interior of this country is prime for wind, the problem is that the major population centers are not in the interior, and our infrastructure is weak.
@obiwannotanikan - The Purdue alloy is not hydrogen power - it's a much simpler innate reaction and doesn't require much external process; just a basic reactor and storage. The minimal waste is also non-toxic. They even hope to use it in the third-world to provide energy and clean water, two birds with one stone.
I used the word "efficiency" for Japan's turbines because they produce greater amounts of energy for less money. The ratio of those factors is the efficiency.
@MrFennmeista It doesn't produce nearly the amount of CO2 as fossil fuels. I can only assume your definition of unclean comes from the nuclear waste? Because that is a problem, but I think less of a problem than the GHG emissions from coal and oil. I still say we should invest more into researching fusion power. It's always 40 years away. There's essentially no emissions, and there's no chance of catastrophic events like nuclear fission plants, because radioactivity is not a problem.
@ikkeforlet Religion is based on a single book made by people thousands of years ago. Global warming has been studied and peer-reviewed by scientists and the greenhouse effect is not speculation. Based on the evidence of warming global temperatures, the carbon recorded in ice shelves, ocean acidification, changing seasons, etc. scientists conclude that human activity is accelerating the warming trend. What is disputed is how much this effect is.
@keller43561 Global warming is accepted by over 90% of the academic community. That's a pretty good indicator that the science is valid. Oh, but it's a conspiracy! Come on, people. Stop being ridiculous.
@keller43561 People are just short-sighted. Climate change is gradual. We have time (or so people think). Except that even if we stopped all GHG/CO2 production today, the atmosphere would continue to absorb it. There's a lag. It's also on a global scale. People in the US aren't going to care about people in the Mediterranean. Combine that with political-infighting and you get the seeming apathy of our country to do anything to significantly address this issue. It's so frustrating.
obiwannotanikan 1 month ago
@keller43561 That's why I worded it the way I did. The major consensus is that humans contribute to global warming, but how much is disputed. Is it 20%? Is it 80%? I happen to think it's somewhere in the middle, which is an admittedly large range. But the planet is a complex system and I don't presume to know the exact numbers. No one does. That's why there's so much controversy. Either way, I think the argument shouldn't matter. Becoming energy efficient and enegy independent is a good idea.
obiwannotanikan 1 month ago
@obiwannotanikan
actually...there is a consensus among a majority of world climatologists that anthopogenic sources are the MAIN cause for present global warming....believe the view is held by 60% ish...not a VAST majority but still
keller43561 1 month ago
@danning1
you cant deny the ludicrous implications made by the clean coal ads ( ie american future is in coal) ...BTW Carbon Capture Sequestration is impractical and will never be implemented on any substantial scale....so stop giving all the pro "clean coal" nut jobs a false sense of legitimacy...
keller43561 1 month ago
@siggy16
ever heard of black lung? how bout lung cancer? or maybe toxic waste? did i forget to mention it pollutes the air? oh, and just a small thing to add, its causes GLOBAL WARMING...coal isn't just dirty...its one of the dirtiest sources of energy in the world
keller43561 1 month ago
@obiwannotanikan - I used to agree with your sentiment that renewables could not meet our grid demands, but I think some of this new technology changes the game. Americans do need to cut down on their energy use in general, but with recent R&D, our demand is reachable. The entire interior of this country is prime for wind, the problem is that the major population centers are not in the interior, and our infrastructure is weak.
TheWanderingPrimate 1 month ago
@obiwannotanikan - The Purdue alloy is not hydrogen power - it's a much simpler innate reaction and doesn't require much external process; just a basic reactor and storage. The minimal waste is also non-toxic. They even hope to use it in the third-world to provide energy and clean water, two birds with one stone.
I used the word "efficiency" for Japan's turbines because they produce greater amounts of energy for less money. The ratio of those factors is the efficiency.
TheWanderingPrimate 1 month ago
@MrFennmeista It doesn't produce nearly the amount of CO2 as fossil fuels. I can only assume your definition of unclean comes from the nuclear waste? Because that is a problem, but I think less of a problem than the GHG emissions from coal and oil. I still say we should invest more into researching fusion power. It's always 40 years away. There's essentially no emissions, and there's no chance of catastrophic events like nuclear fission plants, because radioactivity is not a problem.
obiwannotanikan 1 month ago
@ikkeforlet Religion is based on a single book made by people thousands of years ago. Global warming has been studied and peer-reviewed by scientists and the greenhouse effect is not speculation. Based on the evidence of warming global temperatures, the carbon recorded in ice shelves, ocean acidification, changing seasons, etc. scientists conclude that human activity is accelerating the warming trend. What is disputed is how much this effect is.
obiwannotanikan 1 month ago
@keller43561 Global warming is accepted by over 90% of the academic community. That's a pretty good indicator that the science is valid. Oh, but it's a conspiracy! Come on, people. Stop being ridiculous.
obiwannotanikan 1 month ago