on one hand i want to address the commentors who claim there were never Irish slaves....
on the other i want to let it drop
like "my people" did... which is why we're respected today .
then
on the other hand
i want to discuss the witch trials and the demonization of Women....
since i'm pagan and it's so close to Samhain .
or i could just not and sing the waffle song or something
or talk about samhain rituals .
irish slaves and ethnic cleaning
http://www.kavanaghfamily.com/articles/2003/20030618jfc.htm
There are records of Irish sold as slaves in 1664 to the French on St. Bartholomew, and English ships which made a stop in Ireland en route to the Americas, typically had a cargo of Irish to sell on into the 18th century. Few people today realize that from 1600 to 1699, far more Irish were sold as slaves than Africans.
Slaves or Indentured Servants
There has been a lot of whitewashing of the Irish slave trade, partly by not mentioning it, and partly by labelling slaves as indentured servants. There were indeed indentureds, including English, French, Spanish and even a few Irish. But there is a great difference between the two. Indentures bind two or more parties in mutual obligations. Servant indentures were agreements between an individual and a shipper in which the individual agreed to sell his services for a period of time in exchange for passage, and during his service, he would receive proper housing, food, clothing, and usually a piece of land at the end of the term of service. It is believed that some of the Irish that went to the Amazon settlement after the Battle of Kinsale and up to 1612 were exiled military who went voluntarily, probably as indentureds to Spanish or Portuguese shippers.
However, from 1625 onward the Irish were sold, pure and simple as slaves. There were no indenture agreements, no protection, no choice. They were captured and originally turned over to shippers to be sold for their profit. Because the profits were so great, generally 900 pounds of cotton for a slave, the Irish slave trade became an industry in which everyone involved (except the Irish) had a share of the profits.
salem witch trials.. 20 dead...
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~Marc-Carlson/witchtrial/na.html
spanish inqisition .. and the totals from the burning times ..
4. Where did the Burning Times occur?
Throughout Europe and in the British American colonies. The persecution was most intense in central Europe, and generally got lighter the further you traveled away from that area.
The worst Witch-hunting occurred in Germany, Switzerland, France, Scotland, and (perhaps) Poland. Thousands of Witches were killed in each of these countries. Germany was the worst hit. Approximately one half of all Witches killed in the Burning Times were German -- an estimated 25,000 people all told.
Moderate Witch-hunting occurred in England, Italy, Spain, Hungary, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland. In all of these countries, hundreds of Witches died. Portugal, Ireland, Iceland, the Baltic countries, Russia and America all killed less than 100 Witches.
For a complete list of the executions recorded in various countries, click here.
5. How many Witches died in the Burning Times?
Probably between 40,000 and 60,000. Some scholars estimate that as many as 100,000 people may have died, but that's as high as current estimates go.
Early estimates were much higher. When we had little information on the Witch trials, scholars used to guess that hundreds of thousands of Witches died. However between 1977 and 1981 a flood of new information became available. Because of it, scholarly estimates dropped from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands. (See the sections on the death toll for more on this new data and its impact.)
Unfortunately, many popular writers aren't aware of this new information. They cling to the older, more sensational numbers, not realizing how little evidence there is to support them. As a result, there is a ton of misinformation available and you will hear wildly unrealistic estimates of the death toll of the Burning Times. But again, experts generally agree that the death toll fell between 40,000 and 60,000; a few guess that as many as 100,000 died.
the differance WE PICKED OURSELVES UP AND WE ARN"T BITCHING OR ASKING FOR REPARATIONS!!
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