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no one can put more boring info under his videos than "swissgenius"
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You're an idiot. You do NOT hit offensive returns off of good first serves. You hit offensive returns off of second serves! Now if you're lucky, you can hit a great shot off of a first serve, but it is rarely 100% intentional and won't always be that good simply because 120+ mph serves aren't going to let you simply hit away at them.
A running forehand is by definition a defensive shot. Wanna guess why? BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE FULL RUN! Learn to play tennis you fool!
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Are you dumb? Neutralizing a serve. Do you KNOW what neutralizing means? It means getting yourself and your opponent on equal terms. Would you EVER use a neutralizing shot on offense? HELL NO! Would you use it on defense? HELL YES! I don't know how this argument even remotely works, even in your head...
The server by definition starts on offense. The return was a well placed RESPONSE to a defensive situation, which puts the server on defense, and Federer capitalizes.
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@swissgenius very true.
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Yeah, you are right,
MegaTennismaster
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@Oreoclan & if you mean to tell me you cannot offensively return a serve, then hewitt, Agassi, Safin v. Sampras US open and all other countless matches were deceitful. And returning a serve is VERY Different from a big running forehand which is A OFFENSE shot. Defense could be considered his deep cutting slice, when he goes for that running forehand he has no changed the guard to offense. Again, I'm big fan of swiss genius vids, I am subscribed, I just think he could have picked a better video.
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@Oreoclan thank you for proving my point even further, by definition he is on defense from the first strike, as soon as his racquet placed that ball in a position that gave up a short ball, you can see that it was an OFFENSIVE return. Going from Offense to Offense. I can give you a million examples of offensive returns, the most famous : Agassi. Also we are speaking of FEDERER here, he has been known to neutralize & even offensively attack roddicks serve. Dont butt in if YOU don't understand.
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It's no different from him hitting a big running forehand on the run to push his opponent back. It's a classic case of Federer using his outstanding hand eye coordination and quick footwork to transition from defense to offense in a ridiculously short amount of time.
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If you don't understand what swissgenius means, then don't argue it. Federer's ability to neutralize that you just mentions IS part of his ability to transition from defense to offense so quickly.
ATP pros do NOT have the skill of neutralizing a first serve. If that were true, then people wouldn't be winning 80+% of their first serve points. You don't get easy points off a neutralized serve. Come on now...
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No. Using your reference, ATP pros have the skill of neutralizing a serve. ESPECIALLY Federer, as shown everytime he obliterates Roddick. Seeing how Federer put the ball in a spot that made his opposition give up a short ball, Federer was the one on the offense, from the first shot he hit, thus in turn quickly ending the point with his forehand.
this was offense to offense bro, he hit a well placed return of serve forcing his opponent to hit a short reply in which he took advantage of. This poorly displays federers ability to transform defence to offense, He usually does it by hitting an outstanding shot while on the run then following it up with his big forehand to control and or end the point.
Rec0n77 2 years ago 8
the simple response to this would be that these are atp tour professionals, and the serve of an atp tour professional, especially a first serve as is shown here, is by definition an offensive shot. if you are returning the first serve of an atp tour pro, you are on the defensive until otherwise noted. end of story.
swissgenius 2 years ago 4