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"Jesus Christ, according to the prophecies, which had been spoken
about him beforehand, came to the Passion in the 18th year of Tiberius, at which time also we find these things written verbatim in
other commentaries of the gentiles: an eclipse of the sun happened *, Bithynia shaken by earthquake, and in the city of Nicaea many buildings collapsed: all of which agree with what occurred in the Passion of the Saviour. Indeed Phlegon, who is an excellent calculator of olympiads, also writes about this, in his 13th book writing thus:
"However in the fourth year of the 202nd olympiad, an eclipse of the sun happened, greater and more excellent than any that had happened before it; at the sixth hour, day turned into dark night, so that the stars were seen in the sky, and an earthquake in Bithynia toppled many buildings of the city of Nicaea." These things the
aforementioned man (says). (*) November 24, 29 AD

The proof however of this matter, that in this year the Saviour suffered, the gospel of John presents, in which it is written that after the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, the Lord preached for three years.

Also Josephus, a native writer of the Jews, attests that around that

time on the day of Pentecost, the priests first perceived an earth

tremor and certain (loud) sounds. Then, that an unexpected voice

suddenly burst out from the innermost part of the Temple saying:

"Let us flee from this abode." However the aforementioned man

writes that in the same year Pilate the governor secretly in the night

set up images of Caesar in the temple, and from this arose the first

cause of the rebellion and turmoil of the Jews." (The Chronicle of St.

Jerome-380 CE)(*) November 24, 29 AD

"Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth

day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and

incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would

seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were

not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to

deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of

soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds,

and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call

Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of

the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred

ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking,

and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a

great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence.""(Wars of the Jews

6.5.3)

1. BUT now Pilate, the procurator of Judea, removed the army from

Cesarea to Jerusalem, to take their winter quarters there, in order to

abolish the Jewish laws. So he introduced Caesar's effigies, which

were upon the ensigns, and brought them into the city; whereas our

law forbids us the very making of images; on which account the

former procurators were wont to make their entry into the city with

such ensigns as had not those ornaments. Pilate was the first who

brought those images to Jerusalem, and set them up there; which

was done without the knowledge of the people, because it was done

in the night time; but as soon as they knew it, they came in

multitudes to Cesarea, and interceded with Pilate many days that he

would remove the images; and when he would not grant their

requests, because it would tend to the injury of Caesar, while yet

they persevered in their request, on the sixth day he ordered his

soldiers to have their weapons privately, while he came and sat upon

his judgment-seat, which seat was so prepared in the open place of

the city, that it concealed the army that lay ready to oppress them;

and when the Jews petitioned him again, he gave a signal to the

soldiers to encompass them routed, and threatened that their

punishment should be no less than immediate death, unless they

would leave off disturbing him, and go their ways home. But they

threw themselves upon the ground, and laid their necks bare, and

said they would take their death very willingly, rather than the

wisdom of their laws should be transgressed; upon which Pilate was

deeply affected with their firm resolution to keep their laws

inviolable, and presently commanded the images to be carried back

from Jerusalem to Cesarea. (Antiquities 18.3.1)
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Tertullian, in that book which he wrote against the Jews, affirms that

Christ was born in the 41st year of Augustus, and suffered in the

15th of Tiberius.(SEE-Tertullian-An Answer to the Jews-Chapter 8)

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  • The dates of the games were used for dating, just as the reigns of Kings were used for dating. That does not mean that the games had to be played in the area of the described events. Many politicians were campaigning during the winter olympics, but that does not mean they were campaigning in China. Istanbul, was known as Byzantium, Nova Roma, Jerusalem, and Constantinople at different times, just as New York was once New Amsterdam. See History: Fiction or Science by A T Fomenko. Vols. 1&2.

  • please give me a source wher i can verify if olympic games were indeed held in the area if nicomedia or bithynia.also where can i find information confirming that this area was indeed called "jerusalem" during the 1st century. thanks

  • Yes, You got it right. Jerome is also claiming that the events that happened in 29 CE in Turkey is the same quake that is recorded in the Gospel of Matthew during the Crucifixion, although he states that the Crucifixion took place in 32 CE. The Gospel of Matthew says the quake happened after the Resurrection.

  • So if I followed correctly, the eclipse and the earthquake happened in 29 CE in Turkey; The voice in the temple and another earthquake happened in 70 CE, and Pilate setup the images in the temple in say 26 CE if I understand correctly, yet Jerome says that it all happened the same year.

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