As of a worthless tree that must be cut down and thrown into fire... the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the lake of burning sulfur.
Is it true that the punishment for anyone denying Muhammad 2b a prophet sent by Allah, regardless of their race, sect, and/or mental condition (rationally sound, mentally disturbed, or completely insane) no matter what; the sentence for such a person would be death penalty!
I'd imagine if God ever decided to appoint another prophet for a good cause but afterwards even the almighty is ought to think twice:)
@bosnianmuslim22 surat attawba aya 29. The context is what was going on when this came to muhammad. You'll find that in the hadith. but another context/the reason to kill people is bc of the next aya, aya 30. bc the Jews say Ezra is the son of god and Christians say Jesus is the Son of God.
@ChristlivesES Please provide ur evidence where the quran says to kill those who deny allah or the prophet. Dont just throw claims out there give me the versus. And if u dont mind in context! thanks!
@ChristlivesES I suggest u read the quran because i have and u obviously havnt. The problem is u take the quran out of context just 2 suit u. But if u want 2 play that game go look in ur bible what it says about those who dont belive in ur god kill them. (2nd chronicals 13;15). So be consistent with ur arguments please!
@ChristlivesES I am not in denial u r my friend. We know previous versus were even used later in the life of the prophet. There is a difference between culture and hadith and quran. What david wood does is mix the 2. As far as surah at tawba is considered read it. All the fighting versus refer 2 different situation, they arnt abrgated. Thats the problem. surah 2 talks about fighting back surah 9 talks about fighting those who break there oaths. So u need 2 put in the context.
@ChristlivesES Lol well apparently u havent really read the quran. The quran does state 2 do these things at war. Fight those who fight u (2;191). So that refutes ur point. Also the quran says to be kind a just with those who dont war against u (60;8). Also if u do some more reasearch (outside of david wood) u would know that there were tribes (all relgions) that the prophet had no problems with. He never attack them and they never him. So please read the quran and hadithbefore u makesuch claims
8:65. O Messenger! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
FIGHT AND FIGHT! ONCE MORE THE QURAN TELLS MUSLIMS TO "ROUSE THE BELIEVERS TO FIGHT!" HOW CAN ANYBODY SAY THAT ISLAM IS "A RELIGION OF PEACE"? THE HADITHS CONFIRM THE VIOLENCE IN THE QURAN
@bosnianmuslim22 That doesn't make sense. how can you say this is cultural when it's in the SAHIH Hadith? you obviously don't know too much about your religion. The Quran is always telling Muslims to kill Jews, Christians, and mushriks just bc they rightly deny your god and your false prophet. Don't you read the quran in a language you understand to know what it says?
@bosnianmuslim22 if these verse aren't abrogated then you have a problem bc your book constantly contradictions itself. And this isn't cultural if it's coming from quran and hadith. Sura at-tawba is the most violent surah in the quran and unfortunately it was one of the last surahs revealed. now if you say abrogation is just for alcohol then you're in denial.. Quran is full of hatred of kufr and hadiths are even worse. please read the quran in a language u understand so u can see what I'm saying
As of a worthless tree that must be cut down and thrown into fire... the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the lake of burning sulfur.
eddienamini 2 months ago
Is it true that the punishment for anyone denying Muhammad 2b a prophet sent by Allah, regardless of their race, sect, and/or mental condition (rationally sound, mentally disturbed, or completely insane) no matter what; the sentence for such a person would be death penalty!
I'd imagine if God ever decided to appoint another prophet for a good cause but afterwards even the almighty is ought to think twice:)
eddienamini 2 months ago
@bosnianmuslim22 surat attawba aya 29. The context is what was going on when this came to muhammad. You'll find that in the hadith. but another context/the reason to kill people is bc of the next aya, aya 30. bc the Jews say Ezra is the son of god and Christians say Jesus is the Son of God.
ChristlivesES 4 months ago
@ChristlivesES Please provide ur evidence where the quran says to kill those who deny allah or the prophet. Dont just throw claims out there give me the versus. And if u dont mind in context! thanks!
bosnianmuslim22 4 months ago
@ChristlivesES I suggest u read the quran because i have and u obviously havnt. The problem is u take the quran out of context just 2 suit u. But if u want 2 play that game go look in ur bible what it says about those who dont belive in ur god kill them. (2nd chronicals 13;15). So be consistent with ur arguments please!
bosnianmuslim22 4 months ago
@ChristlivesES I am not in denial u r my friend. We know previous versus were even used later in the life of the prophet. There is a difference between culture and hadith and quran. What david wood does is mix the 2. As far as surah at tawba is considered read it. All the fighting versus refer 2 different situation, they arnt abrgated. Thats the problem. surah 2 talks about fighting back surah 9 talks about fighting those who break there oaths. So u need 2 put in the context.
bosnianmuslim22 4 months ago
@ChristlivesES Lol well apparently u havent really read the quran. The quran does state 2 do these things at war. Fight those who fight u (2;191). So that refutes ur point. Also the quran says to be kind a just with those who dont war against u (60;8). Also if u do some more reasearch (outside of david wood) u would know that there were tribes (all relgions) that the prophet had no problems with. He never attack them and they never him. So please read the quran and hadithbefore u makesuch claims
bosnianmuslim22 4 months ago
8:65. O Messenger! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.
FIGHT AND FIGHT! ONCE MORE THE QURAN TELLS MUSLIMS TO "ROUSE THE BELIEVERS TO FIGHT!" HOW CAN ANYBODY SAY THAT ISLAM IS "A RELIGION OF PEACE"? THE HADITHS CONFIRM THE VIOLENCE IN THE QURAN
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@bosnianmuslim22 That doesn't make sense. how can you say this is cultural when it's in the SAHIH Hadith? you obviously don't know too much about your religion. The Quran is always telling Muslims to kill Jews, Christians, and mushriks just bc they rightly deny your god and your false prophet. Don't you read the quran in a language you understand to know what it says?
ChristlivesES 6 months ago
@bosnianmuslim22 if these verse aren't abrogated then you have a problem bc your book constantly contradictions itself. And this isn't cultural if it's coming from quran and hadith. Sura at-tawba is the most violent surah in the quran and unfortunately it was one of the last surahs revealed. now if you say abrogation is just for alcohol then you're in denial.. Quran is full of hatred of kufr and hadiths are even worse. please read the quran in a language u understand so u can see what I'm saying
ChristlivesES 6 months ago