The solar system's motion through space

http://portaltoascension.org

video created by the resonnance project: Nassim Haramein

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[37rainman]

You are wrong! If the line made by the intersection of the earths orbital plane and the galactic disc went thru the galactic center, at 2 times during our year, earth and sun would align with Sag A. This obviously doesnt happen--Sag A is NOT on the ecliptic, it is about 5-6degrees south. Brings to mind again the nonexistent galactic alignment of 12/21/12!! (-;

[37rainman]

You r correct, th material on this vid is perfectly childish. Motion is relative. So for some interesting trivia, lets examine your question about the "perfect circle solar system". If u were to accurately draw an ellipse (representing earths orbit) with a major axis 200 mm long, erase the major axis and foci, it would b indistinguishable from a circle--given a ruler, u could never place th axii--it is that accurately a circle. Venus and Nep orbits r even more circular than earth. Simple math!

[Ian Glenn]

Perhaps you mean, Sgr A* is not *just* a reference point. What you are saying is true, and very interesting about the alignment, but the video title is simply "Solar system's motion through space."

The video is not claiming to be a simulation of the motion as seen from the center of the galaxy. I imagined it was a simulation of the motion as seen from a spaceship moving down towards the sun. All motion is relative, you know.

[simhopp]

sagitarius A* is not a reference point.

solar ecliptic plane cross the sagitarius A* if it is extended to that point.

the significance of that is, whether that is conincidental or if all the other star systems' ecliptic plane

crosses the center of the galaxy.

what that means is, ecliptic plane rotates as the star orbits around the galaxy and always cross the center of galaxy,

for which there is no good theory to account for such motion of ecliptic plane.

[simhopp]

that's why I wrote below this simulation is incorrect.

solar system orbital plane is NOT at 90° to the disk of the Milky Way.

it is at 60°

and the intersection of solar system orbital plane and milky way disk (which is a line, obviously)

is aligned to the center of the galaxy.

whether this alignment is conincidental or not (ie, all the other star systems' orbital plane is aligned to the center of the galaxy) is not known at the moment.

[Ian Glenn]

the sun's primary direction of travel in the Milky Way is to orbit the center *if you take the point of view of the center of the milky way* but that is not required. The visualization in this video could be from the point of view of say a spaceship, or another star, that happens to be moving at 90 deg. to the planet's orbital plane. Remember, everything in space is relative because there is no universal "background grid" to space.

[Ian Glenn]

This simulation is not obviously incorrect. Sure, it makes sense to chose sagitarius A* as a reference point, but it is not required. This visualization represents sun and planets motion with respect to a reference point moving ~90 deg. to the ecliptic. This reference point may be another star, or a spaceship, or imaginary, it doesn't matter. "No reference point is better than another" says Einstein.

[Ian Glenn]

I think the conservation of energy gives rise to the elliptical orbits, not relative motion to the galaxy. While it makes perfect sense to choose the center of the galaxy as reference point to imagine the movement of the Sun, it is not required. There is no "grid" to space, remember. This video is a visualization of the movement with respect to an object moving at 90 deg., perhaps another star in the galaxy.

[Chris Brown]

Yeah I think most of us spotted it lol

[simhopp]

this is obviously incorrect simulation.

solar system plane (ie ecliptic) is 60 degrees off the galactic plane.

not 90 degrees as shown here.

intersecting line created by two planes is however, aligned to the center of milkyway = sagitarius A*

milkyway is spining clockwise, and solar system counter clock wise

viewed from northern hemisphere of earth.

earth also rotates counter clock wise, viewed from northern hemisphere.