The Eucharist

Believers in sola scriptura don't understand that for the first 1,500 years of the first Christians, everyone believed in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. Until someone decided the first Christians were wrong, thats when it all changed. They believed Christ made a mistake, by allowing the first Christians to continue in the belief of the Real Pesence. But Jesus was very clear when He stated, " unless you eat of the flesh of the Son of man, you shall not have life within you".

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[Tommy5297]

You do err..not knowing the Scriptures. Why play word games with other souls.

[stevesilvia]

@Tommy5297 and you know this as a fact? We do know Scriptures....

[ZebraSpider454]

@badpanda84 --"My flesh is real food, and my blood is real drink". If Jesus can turn water into wine, he certainly can turn wine into his own blood without it looking like his blood. He is the God who can do all things.

[baldonebear]

I am thankful for the celebration of the Eucharist.

At the Passover meal, a portion of bread and the 4th cup of wine were saved, and it was used to remember the body and blood of the lamb.

How powerful it was when Jesus said "This is" referring to the bread and wine. The word "is" means to be.

How powerful when he uses the word "remembrance", for in the Jewish mindset this meant "to make present that which is".

How powerful, that he is truly present!

[ccarlosincali]

The majority of Christians believe that Christ is physically present in the Eucharist. Besides Roman Catholic and Orthodox also Anglicans and Lutherans hold the 'real presence' as a vital aspect of the sacramental mystery of the Mass.

[frank0067]

rev 17 .. LEARNING ABOUT CATHOLICISM

[badpanda84]

@Archangel866 obviously not literial-- just like how being "born agian" is not literial..

And of coruse what about the verse that say we should cut off our hand if it causes us to sin..

This is just a methpor -- probably an extention of Jesus is the bread of life.

[Archangel866]

@badpanda84 --"The bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh"..."bread...is my flesh". If I was a non-cath, this would make me nervous.

[badpanda84]

@drdst17 "

The Transubstantiation is a mystery, and a miracle."

NO its not -- its just a wafter -- nothing mysterious about that -- just a wafer that they probably by from the store in a big box.

[badpanda84]

@stevesilvia "Perhaps what you are really trying to say is, "what must I do to believe?"

The answer is obvious -- you would need to suffer brain damage or possilbe be under the infliunce of drugs or alchol

[Tommy5297]

Mr. Silvia, i am sure that many good people do not ask the Holy Ghost to open the Scriptures.Shalom.

[182RG]

@badpanda84

I have read that satanists use consecrated hosts in their black masses, and that some of "priests" can tell a consecrated host from one that's not. Another article stated that the going rate in Britain for a consecrated host was 30 British pounds - ironic, I thought, since 30 also was the number of silver pieces Judas received. Although other later articles place the price at up to 500 Euros each in Europe.

Yet they won't give 2c for Protestant communion bread.

[gentlesoul08]

I believe that the presence of Christ in the Eucharist is very alive, indeed. I remember watching one Asian woman received the Holy Communion on Youtube. Then, something suddenly changed in the Holy Communion in her mouth. It mysteriously transferred into red flesh (and blood).

[christosz1]

@stevesilvia God Bless you!

[FraGilesMary]

For those who care enough to allow the Holy Spirit to speak to their hearts, minds, and spirits, may I respectfully suggest reading: "IN THE PRESENCE OF OUR LORD - THE HISTORY, THEOLOGY, AND PSYCHOLOGY OF EUCHARISTIC DEVOTION" by Father Benedict Groeschel, C.F.R. and see what the Church believed for the first 1500 years of its existence.

[stevesilvia]

@ZebraSpider454 good answer! Straight from the bible....

[stevesilvia]

@badpanda84 unless you are god, it cannot change... is that too difficult for you to understand? Perhaps what you are really trying to say is, "what must I do to believe?"

[drdst17]

@badpanda84 Ye of little Faith. The Transubstantiation is a VERY difficult doctrine to believe - that's why Christ said "Eat of my Flesh and drink of my Blood, lest you have no life within you". Many of his followers abandoned Him that day.

The Transubstantiation is a mystery, and a miracle. Our human senses fail us when we try to look at the Eucharist with a worldly view. Faithless beings never believe because their hearts are not ready to believe.

[badpanda84]

@stevesilvia Its not very miraculaous change.

So basically you are saying it changes into the body of chirst -- only it dosent really change -- because it is exactly identical to a unblessed communion wafer in every way.

[badpanda84]

@stevesilvia Exactly if the DNA dose not change then its just a cracker - duh..

Otherwise I can say this $5 note is really $100 dollars -- only it had the apperence of a $5 note.

[stevesilvia]

@badpanda84 Transubstantiation: the miraculous change by which according to Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox dogma the eucharistic elements at their consecration become the body and blood of Christ while keeping only the appearances of bread and wine.The DNA does not change,,,

[badpanda84]

@stevesilvia IF the DNA dosent change then you can't claim it is literially the body of christ.

IF there is no change in the DNA then that means -- its just a cracker -- which is what all the non-catholics have been saying.

[stevesilvia]

@badpanda84 The DNA does not change...its called transubstantiation, look it up.

[badpanda84]

This whole issuse can be resolved in a few minutes if the catholic church simply allowed the Eucharist to be DNA tested.

[badpanda84]

"Believers in sola scriptura don't understand that for the first 1,500 years of the first Christians"

LOL people belived alot of stupid shit for the first 1500 years.. its a good thing our understanding of the world has progressed