Communism in Poland

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[Guruma]

It's sad that you replay German propaganda movies... Cavalry was used to move thruout the country which hadnt much roads... We had one of the best tanks in the world (second after Czechs) but their number was only like 500, PZL Łoś best bomber in the 1939! We had anti-tank riffles that could shoot thrue german tanks! But all small in quantity because it was only 21 years after gaining independence after WWI where Poland was battlefield for german and russian fights.

[zlotygekon]

@yemilb @yemilb haha you know what? it is true. germans killed jews- poles must pay. communists took their property - poles must pay. they destroyed jews property - we must pay. and who will pay poles for ww2, nazism and communism? nobody. antisemitism? check it by yourself. i think killed in holocaust poor uncle moses would turn over in grave if he could knew how his "family" from usa he never ever meet extract "his" money from us

[rjpancerniCAUSA]

@Woloh Because dynastic monarchy ended for Poland and Litva with death of last hereditary king. Union of Lublin truly was 'republican' (not the political party) type of united kingdom(s). Nobles of both kingdoms agree to form one state, politically as opposed to 'divine right'. German Emperor and Russian 'Emperor' hated Union of Lublin type of government. With an elected king, this may be considered a predecessor to U.S. constitutional republic (after U.S. Revolutionary War).

[Woloh]

@rjpancerniCAUSA Ok. Had Poland and Litva formed one country by signing the Union of Krewo in 1385, then why the heck they needed the Union of Lublin in 1569? And why for the most of time between those two dates Poland and Litva had completely different rulers? Open Union of Krewo in Wikipedia, this might answer some of your questions. I am Orthodox, but in our lands religion doesn't matter.

[rjpancerniCAUSA]

@Woloh Good idea about New York. Here is an idea, how about York, U.K. There ya go.

Now, when Jagello was king, which flag did Jagello fly? Litwa? Polska? Was PL-L or was PL-L not; a 'united kingdom'? You tell me. I stand by the physical borders, such as those borders were. Language? Culture? Religion? No argument from me. I am talking about 'borders on a map' after Jegello was crowned king. That is all. (are you a Calvinist?) just askin'.

[Woloh]

@rjpancerniCAUSA Here is another idea for you. Since Jagello was a Lithianian prince, and since he never learned Polish in his life, and since all the churches that were built during his reign had a clear Byzantine (i.e. Orthodox) look and feel, maybe it was the other way around - maybe Poland became a part of Litva? So, Krakow is legitimately a historical Belarusian land? Sounds logical. Eastern Poland is Belarus! Especially since Masovians had the same origin as Litvins (and rest is Prussia :)

[Woloh]

@rjpancerniCAUSA Can you please tell me which exactly cities in Litva were Poland in 1400? And how they were different from say Polotsk, Mogilev, or Smolensk (nowadays in Russia). The division into Western and Eastern Belarus never existed until Poland militarily occupied lands to Stolbcy in 1919. If you claim Belarus was Poland in 1400, then you should claim that cities like Kiev and Polotsk were also Poland, because they were part of Litva at that time. Don't limit yourself, claim New York :-)

[rjpancerniCAUSA]

@Woloh I am not going to argue about what the Belarusians thought or had to say. My point is, that (present day) Western Belarus, was, at one time, during the rule of King Jagello, and for centuries after Jagello, Poland. Militarily Poland. Politically Poland. The statement 'for only 18 years' is not, at least, geographically correct.

C'mon, admit it!

[Woloh]

@rjpancerniCAUSA Well, now you see why for Belarusians it is safer to stick with Russians rather then with Polish. At least Russians do not say that we did not exist. That's the reason Poland lost its chance, and a civilizational war against Russians, and shrunk to the level of European insignificance.

[rjpancerniCAUSA]

@Woloh Yes...of course...and then the marriage of Queen (King, for political purposes) Jadwiga and Crown Prince Jagello. Please notice I typed '1400's, not '1400'.

[Woloh]

@rjpancerniCAUSA In 1400 it was the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.

[rjpancerniCAUSA]

Stalin allows Germany to re-arm and retrain, throughout 30's. France does nothing. Stalin plans that, after defeat of Red army by Polish army in 1920, communist 'global revolution' will be opposed by entire world. Red Army needs to appear to be 'liberators'. Hitler and National Socialists play part perfectly. Red Army 'saves' Poland from Nazis'. WWII lasts for 50 years in Poland. :...(