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[godkingofthepunks]

see my FTL video clip " i dont want to be free i want to live under state control " -

Is great to see that FTL have had their sights set firmly on Liberty for quite some time now - most of the others who call themselves Libertarians seem content with trying to get their masters permission for more liberty's without ever going for Liberty itself - they seem content spending their lives begging for more freedoms but express no desire to be free

[godkingofthepunks]

He would not of found freedom in New Hampshire as it is not yet in Anarchism - there is still the existence of power which is law - to create a free society all structures of power must be destroyed - a law is a rule - lawed is ruled - you cannot be free and ruled. If free state project does achieve its goal of Anarchism and creates a beacon of Liberty then others will say "how comes theyre free and not us" then things would really get moving

[CurtHowland]

@libertyfizz I also mentioned the John Locke Foundation, which I wish New Hampshire had. The New Hampshire Liberty Alliance tries, but the JLF is just so very much more professional about it all.

Ah well, Just as Browne, Ruwart and Muger, I also -left- NC.

[libertyfizz]

@CurtHowland Yet for some reason many of the best Libertarian thinkers have called North Carolina home. I would not call NC hopeless but more improbable. Sorry you have such a low opinion of a state that was home to Harry Browne, Mary Ruwart, and Michael Munger. I only see NH has a little less improbable it isn't a lock that Liberty will take hold there. The problem is national not just state by state. I am just as likely to want to expatriate as move to NH in search of freedom.

[CurtHowland]

@libertyfizz "so after next year there will be no government tobacco subsidies."

That is next year.

And yes, I know farm subsidies are pervasive, as well as proposed and present "green" subsidies effecting the ecologically minded New England states. Nowhere is pure as the driven snow, as it were.

Living in NC, it's clear that there Liberty is a hopeless cause.

[libertyfizz]

@CurtHowland You are somewhat misinformed on the issue of tobacco subsidies they have been phased out so after next year there will be no government tobacco subsidies. New Hampshire farmers are also wedded to their subsidies. The only reason they get less is due to size and fewer farms. Even so New Hampshire farmers got over 58 million in subsidies from 1995 - 2009. I agree however NH has a better chance for change and why I recommended young Liberty activist move to NH.

[CurtHowland]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 "without abolishing capitalism"

Here we go again. Your false idea of what "capitalism" is constantly ruins ever attempt to talk to you.

"how you are going to get everyone in NH under your idea of libertarianism if most of the population doesn't want it."

I'm not. You can live, voluntarily, under any system you want. That's called "choice".

Now, again, why do YOU want to hold a gun to your neighbor's head? You keep saying you're not in favor of freedom.

[CurtHowland]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 Because of "distributed costs, concentrated benefits", it's easy to say that this or that program does good, and costs so little for each taxpayer. But that is only true in detail, not of the whole mass of crap.

The perverse incentives of bureaucracy make every govt run program cost many times what any good is actually done by that program, if any.

So no matter how beneficial you think your program would be, it is better done without taxation, regulation, and coercion.

[CurtHowland]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 Let me elaborate just a bit.

If a program, like a soup kitchen, enjoys the majority support it requires to tax fund it, then those who support it have no need to tax, there's plenty of support.

If a program does not enjoy sufficient support from people to fund it voluntarily, then it does not have the support necessary to have it be tax funded in the first place.

What we have is many small, special interest projects each eating tax money because the politicians wanted votes.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@CurtHowland Abolishing the state without abolishing capitalism will simply lead towards capitalists re-creating the state, or will lead them to create a bunch of mini-states which will function in the same way. That's why I propose going after the state AND capitalism at the same time.

And my argument isn't in favor of statism. I was simply asking how you are going to get everyone in NH under your idea of libertarianism if most of the population doesn't want it.