Farnborough Day 1 Flying Display in Infrared

Flightglobal in partnership with FLIR Systems brings you a recording of the flying display from day one of the Farnborough 2010 airshow. Our unique camera films in regular display as well as infrared. Included in this clip is the A400M, A380, F-16, F-22, Typhoon, The Blades, and the Sukhoi Superjet.

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Travel & Events

Tags:

• aviation
• modren warfare
• airplanes
• high speed
• F-22
• F-16
• A380
• A400M
• Typhoon
• Sukhoi
• Superjet

[thomaspruzina]

Shame there is no information about what distance those were taken from and also, when was afterburner used and when not (clever people may get the difference).

Another nice information would be performance of "stealth" raptor from big range (either IR, performance against low / high frequency radars and passive kolchuga radar vs AESA). Anyway those wont be public for some time or person who get caught leaking this won't be seen again. :)

[tippership]

@MrPikon ...What i said came not from "statements"- but from pilots. That is all.

[MrPikon]

@tippership I think your confusing different statements that have been made over the years regarding the performance of the F-22.

It's been said that the F-22 can reach Mach 1.5 at 80% mil power, and the published flight envelope shows it can reach up to M1.75 in mil power, but it can only reach this speed at one particular altitude which makes it quite a marginal capability anyway.

[tippership]

@KARASAWA40

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i can tell you this much.

When the Raptor supercruises at M 1.8- it is NOT using 100% dry thrust ;)

you'll have to figure out what that means from there..... that is all.

[KARASAWA40]

Links?

[MrPikon]

@KARASAWA40 What in the world makes you think that the F-22 can out-perform the EF in AB, let alone in mil-power ?

The F-22 has the capability to spend the duration of an engagement >M 1.5 (dependent on the altitude and how it's loaded) but to reach Mach 2 still requires the use of AB which limits it's endurance to a short dash.

[MrAlisalami]

@KARASAWA40 Why is the reflection on the F-22's tail any different ?

IMO the F-22 appeared to produce a larger AB plume than the other fighters on display although none of the other fighters on display where of a similar size or produce as much thrust. I would guess that the F-22 probably has a greatly reduced signature over the similarly sized F-15 or Flanker, and that would have made for an interesting comparison.

[MrAlisalami]

" even though it's twice as powerful than the other fighters, the AB signal is not noticeably higher. "

Try watching the full displays filmed by FLIR at Farnborough before drawing any conclusion based on this footage alone. Under similar conditions the AB plume produced by the F-22 was noticeably larger than that of the EF, although probably of comparable size relative to it's larger airframe. -

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[MrAlisalami]

@KARASAWA40 If you believe that the F-22 can match the best performance of other new generation fighters like the Rafale or Typhoon without using afterburner then you are very much mistaken.

" doesn't seem to reflect its own heat signal like the Typhoon "

At 1:55 the F-22's engine is clearly reflected by it's tail.

At 1:02 the Typhoon's wing appears reflective but the footage is also overexposed to the point that the background is lighter, and even the turbulence over the wing is visible.

[Timo3531]

@KARASAWA40 Agree with you there!