Scarborough Reacts to Good Friend Shadegg's Baby Prop Stunt: 'I Don't Know That Guy'

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[cjm608]

and maddy when you grow up you can hate everyone except white people, and we will show you what god to believe in and if your real good and dont fall in love with a woman, we will give you a gun. yay! if i was maddy my first word would be democrat.

[ultimatenate]

All these stimulating comments about healthcare reform. The point of the video is that Shadegg is a fucking douchebag and needs to hire new handlers who can keep him from doing stupid shit like this.

[Visfen]

"Since no state would willingly give up the state tax revenue they gain from having these businesses in their state. "

That is what all this is about. And if you want a federal instead of a state system that is what you need to change first.

Don't talk about what is politically expedient, because that is always what is wrong.

Trust me when I tell you how this will play out, a few years it will work fine, then it will totally and utterly collapse with the entire US economy.

[bigtexansfan]

Mattie wants you to shut the fuck up!

[greyflcn]

re: Visfen

That said, if we could do something like the Swiss system.

Where the stuff that's currently regulated by states, would be regulated by federal. I'd be perfectly fine with opening up state lines.

However that'd never happen anyways,

Since no state would willingly give up the state tax revenue they gain from having these businesses in their state.

[greyflcn]

@Visfen

About the state lines

1. Harder to sue companies out of state

2. Removes a state's ability to regulate pre-existing conditions, and mandates.

3. Companies would just move to states with weakest legal structure

When people make these broad claims about American cancer survival rates. That's largely due to mandates for cancer screenings in populous states.

And as for pre-existing conditions, certain states allow domestic abuse, and pregnancy to be a pre-existing condition.

[Visfen]

If you were to do any sort of reform based on the ridiculous conditions we are in now that are imploding the US economy, try to go in the right direction. Don't create a public "option", instead try to liberate the industry of stupid regulations such as the block on across state insurance trade and withdraw Medicaid to fund an extension of medicare while freeing up cash to cut taxes on income and remove the employer insurance tax benefit to destroy the status quo.

This is just more of the same.

[Visfen]

Well we could have, that is entirely up to legislators.

Because you can't remove regulations when you insure the depoits, the banks, and half of all the mortgages in the market. That is just crazy. I thought Reagan proved that to be a complete failure when his phony economy collapsed.

If you want to liberate an economy you have to remove both the restraints and the benefits, if you remove only the restraints and easy credit you will have systemic risk.

[greyflcn]

re: Visfen

And that's how things would function,

If we had a Austrian market.

But we both can agree that we don't.

Drugs are patented, and Surgeons outside of an insurance company's network aren't financed.

And I would argue that methods that may work inside a Austrian market, do not necessarily work outside of one.

For instance, can you explain to me why Ron Paul voted against the removal of the Glass Steagall Act, and deregulation of Credit Default Swaps.

[Visfen]

But in the same sense "cures" are fungible. Fungibility talks about commodities, not how a market functions. The "problem" with agriculture, ie. food, is that it is an inelastic market, where wheat is a fungible commodity.

But you don't solve any of these problem by involving a monopoly on violence (the state) in the transactions.

What you can do is give "market privilege" , that is to remove any taxation or regulation from transaction that deal with these kind of services.