Firefighter Bailouts

New Glarus Fire Department practicing some firefighter bailout techniques.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• firefighter
• bailout
• safety
• NGFD
• new glarus

[newt1972]

Wow! Block me? Now there's a threat! Anyway, I gotta give you this, I never thought about the out of air scenario, that is a good example. But an explosion?

[jtkammerud]

Sorry to be offended by your comments. Obviously, it is my video, I'm going to be biased to my perspective and you are obviously biased to your own view. I agree that an explosion would not be likely as no one would have time to jump out a window during a backdraft, but still feel there are situations where a firefighter needs to not only get out, but get to the ground very quickly. Thanks for your personal input on the topic.

[dentaldonkey]

just an FYI, your not supposed to be walking down the building, this is not repelling.If you slip and land on ur back, that SCBA will dig right into the back of your spine..

[jtkammerud]

@dentaldonkey

Yeah I know, I totally agree. I had never done a rope bailout before and was really getting more a feel for the device than demonstrating a proper technique.

[Dsam310]

@Paintballer2200 Rope, which is quicker but very dangerous, it can catch on fire and rip easily and a firefighter will fall flat on his back and depending on the floor break his spine or severely injure himself.

[BSchroeder620]

what descender are you using and anchor device  Crosby, carabiner or cmc style hook

[Paintballer2200]

What did the last Firefighter use to bailout? it seemed quick and effective, safer then the ladder too

[OliviaSST]

@victorofd is not wise at all. Any incident that happens here where someone is hurt while training or killed will likely result in a serious judgement against the agency in charge of this evolution. Remember too that death and injury during training is the most preventable form of firefighter death and injury. Again check out the EveryOneGoesHomeAlive website for information about this.

[OliviaSST]

@victorofd Go to the Everyonegoeshomealive website and check their initiatives. Remember too that consensus standards are just that..the consensus of many people, some who have tried something some who have not. Usually someone has to come up with the idea tha tis not the standard before other's will review it and believe it is a good practice to implement. As far as standards go though, this training evolution where someone is jumping face forward on a ladder without any fall protection

[OliviaSST]

@dentaldonkey Not necessarily with the new SCBA lumbar supports and padding, the SCBA's force would be spread out over several square ft. of surface area. Compare that to what will happen to your body if you are expose to 800 degree heat for 40 seconds, including your lungs. You will most likely not survive the heat but the injury to your back you have a better chance or surviving.

[victorofd]

I recentley had an argument with one of the NFPA /IFSAC standards reps about bailouts in Firefighter Survival. As yet there is no set standard by the two organizations on FF bailouts. I feel they should be integral parts of basic Firefighter training. With that said people need to look at this as a video and not a training exercise. These manouvres are difficult to accomplish unless practiced well and prepared for. See Ottawa Fire Forward Ave Report, where 5 ff's had to bail. Good video though!

[4F3D1E]

you slide down the rails because its faster then descending using the rungs. When you have a crew inside that needs to bailout when in a real emergency it can come down to seconds. Bailing out this way allows for multiple firefighters to bailout in a short period of time. How are you going to feel if you use the rungs and the rest of your crew gets injured because they couldn't get onto the ladder in time?