OWS: Amendments vs. Pitchforks

Despite the obscene length, I still have to do a follow up on this. Had to leave plenty of stuff out as it is. Not happy about that. A (hopefully) much shorter Part 2 should be up sometime next week.

Even I have no desire to nitpick this: http://www.movetoamend.org/

salsa3.salsalabs.com/o/50137/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=6883

http://www.ctj.org/corporatetaxdodgers/CorporateTaxDodgersReport.pdf

http://front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bernie-Sanders-Corporate-T...

Miscellaneous: http://www.fastcompany.com/1792056/occupy-wall-street-demographics-infographic

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[costagreek19]

ALL minimum wage is counterproductive to employers AND employees; not just the minimum wages "which go too far" according to the arbitrary standards you use to define what too far is.

[AntiBullshitMan]

If you're coming at this from an ideological/moral "it's against freedumb" angle, let me know so I don't waste my time making practical arguments only to have them dismissed at the end anyway due to categorical imperative myopia. If you're statistically swayable, consult:

davidcard(.)berkeley(.)edu/pap­ers/njmin-aer(.)pdf

irle(.)berkeley(.)edu/workingp­apers/157-07(.)pdf P961

cepr(.)net/documents/publicati­ons/min-wage-2011-03(.)pdf P29

davidcard(.)berkeley(.)edu/pap­ers/minwage-unemp(.)pdf

[AntiBullshitMan]

@c

Remove brackets & add "h t t p". Also add "triple dubyas" after h t t p for any link that fails without them. I'd have included all that but YT's being a massive cunt & not letting my posts go through with those included. I have more sources, and I just wasted the last 55 minutes of my life dressing all those links up in brackets & "DOTS", but they still won't go through. It appears YT only allows pdfs here, so PM me if you're interested in more data refuting your common misconceptions.

[nasty1182]

You sir, have a brain.

[AntiBullshitMan]

"the highly rated video regarding the fed rant"

Wait, are you actually suggesting that a high rating on a YT video even remotely passes for the type of evidence I initially requested? Are you serious? Is this how you treat serious discussions in general? You need to provide statistics to support your notion that there's this great solidarity among OWS with respects to bilderberg conspiracies & other "end the fed" insipid drivel.

"2nd class" Not quite, but their basic values are still 180'd.

[ThePovratakOtpisanih]

@AntiBullshitMan

There's evidence in OWS itself. Surely you're familiar with the highly rated video regarding the fed rant which took place at the heart of OWS. It's actually right here on the list of videos to the right hand side of yours. I see tons of solidarity.

And no the supremacists/blacks analogy is not applicable. Nader's & Paul's supporters do not strive to render the other as 2nd class citizens, for one.

[AntiBullshitMan]

@AntiBullshitMan "This was never reason enough for them to unite"

Unite *politically*, being what I meant.

[AntiBullshitMan]

"unity among figureheads often leads to unity among the voting bases"

This is an extraordinary claim which requires evidence in order to be taken seriously.

"incorrect about its applicability"

It's applicable. Blacks & white supremacists had many a common enemy throughout history. This was never reason enough for them to unite. They'd prove to be ineffective in light of constant internal friction.

"Nader"

Just re-watch the segment. It's a yes/no question which he outright avoided answering.

[ThePovratakOtpisanih]

@AntiBullshitMan

I'm well aware of the point you tried to make in the video. What seems to escape you is that unity among figureheads often leads to unity among the voting bases of said figureheads, one of whom is in this case an actual presidential candidate. You are correct about the severity of your MLK/Scates analogy, and incorrect about its applicability. And Nader didn't filibuster anything in that segment anyway.

You mentioned dropping by Occupy Vancouver back in Oct. Are you from Van?

[Ramiromasters]

Ha ha very true about Peter Shift, he really stop playing ball along time ago...