Dr. J. Vernon McGee Refutes Calvinism - Doctrine of Election and Free Will (Part 1)

Dr. McGee calls Calvinism's Doctrine of Election a dangerous and frightful view of God. He also said, if he believed in this doctrine, he'd never attempted to preach the word of God and never try to lead anyone to Christ because there'd be no need of it.

1 Timothy 4:1 ¶Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Peter 2:1 ¶But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 Corinthians 11:4  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

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[Mcfirefly2]

McGee believed that we needed the Holy Spirit, through conviction, to enable us to receive the gospel. But he believed that the choice was ours. In no way did he believe or teach that God regenerates us first before we can believe and be saved.

[Rachella38]

@Mcfirefly2 Thank you for your posts. I'm at the belief that McGee wouldn't have identified himself as a Calvinist, if he'd known the danger in doing so. It confuses people into believing Calvinism is ok, and we both know that McGee didn't believe in the poisonous TULIP.

[Mcfirefly2]

"Thirsty?" was the Coca-Cola ad, but McGee was referring to Revelation 22: And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

[Mcfirefly2]

Since the elect are already the elect, no need to go to the cross, nor to have this charade or having to believe then be saved (which is what the Bible teaches). Nor the charade of God's saving love, which He testifies of by His word and Spiri. It's all about the "sovereignty." No need for the gospel, the power of God unto salvation, to them that believe.

[Mcfirefly2]

According to this lying doctrine of power, no God who would hold out His hands to a gainsaying people all day long is God. No God wjo would say, I would...but ye would not, is God. And no one who would do a "weak" thing like going to the cross could be God, since He could just as easily—much more easily—have just forced His will and brought on the Kingdom of God on earth.

[Mcfirefly2]

God was free when He gave moral freedom to man. Everybody knows he can choose between this thing and that, and we know we are responsible for our choice.

[cranmer1959]

There is no free will. All are born slaves to sin. (Romans 3:23).

[cranmer1959]

God is not free in one area, according to McGee?  God can damn whom He wills to damn and give mercy to whom He will give mercy. Romans 9:18-24

[cranmer1959]

The lady is right. J. Vernon McGee's doctrine of God is a god who is not God at all.

[Mcfirefly2]

See, "being a Calvinist" means different things to different people. At the time McGee was a young man in school, quite a few Biblical beliefs were labelled Calvinist, and the worst element of (true) Calvinism were labelled "hyper-Calvinism." To not call yourself Calvinist was thought by many to be an endorsement of heresies, and a rejection of Biblical doctrines that were falsely called Calvinist.

[Mcfirefly2]

@syad9000 @syad9000 "Thirsty?" McGee believed we could respond to that. He did not believe or teach that man was incapable of response to God. But he did believe we are fallen.

[Mcfirefly2]

John Newton also concluded he was a Calvinist because of certain doctrines, but we know that by "Amazing Grace," he did not mean the Cavinist doctrines of grace, but an actual gift offered to whosoever would simply believe in Jesus.