If I have to be killed, all I ask is to get an injection, like they use on Dogs and Cats to put them to sleep. I want to just go to sleep and never wake up.
You are so much putting words on my mouth. My only statements were that killing old people is not eugenics, it's more like greed (as not wanting to support their life any more). Do not draw conclusions further than that, you're quite wrong of my attitude. I support Alex generally, but when he exaggerates or stretches things, I may criticise as well. And now he is stretching the eugenics concept.
@Aurinkohirvi It is not putting words in your mouth to derive implications from what you say. Whether you believe in eugenics or not, you are currently serving as devil's advocate to the argument. You can fall back on the fact that you don't 'really believe any of this' all you like, but don't argue it in the next breath as if you did.
You either give equal value to the life of the elderly as that you award a child or you do not. So, do you or not? I don't speak for you; you're just vague.
@Aurinkohirvi You are taking on authority the assumption that the meaning of life would be to provide a more stable life for new life. If we must kill to make room for new life, then whatever humanitarian purposes eugenics are supposed to serve are nullified. How can one approach a concept for the greater good if it involves murder? What humanitarian action would not be nullified by murder?
The elderly are entitled to the lives they are still living, as a new child would be to his own.
@Aurinkohirvi Kids are not the current generation, but the next. They do not reproduce in the current generation just as grandmothers do not. A eugenicist assumes that the meaning of life would be to reproduce, and yet if we are to kill off our elderly, we are working to sustain our means to work. This would lead to a non-fulfilling life. I suggest if you support eugenics to kill yourself as a means of demonstration.A dead person cannot reproduce, and thus does not change the current generation.
If killing billionaires is called terrorism, shouldn't killing granny be called murder.
lazyfreedom98 1 month ago
If I have to be killed, all I ask is to get an injection, like they use on Dogs and Cats to put them to sleep. I want to just go to sleep and never wake up.
jackbenimble8855251 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners
You are so much putting words on my mouth. My only statements were that killing old people is not eugenics, it's more like greed (as not wanting to support their life any more). Do not draw conclusions further than that, you're quite wrong of my attitude. I support Alex generally, but when he exaggerates or stretches things, I may criticise as well. And now he is stretching the eugenics concept.
Aurinkohirvi 1 year ago
@Aurinkohirvi It is not putting words in your mouth to derive implications from what you say. Whether you believe in eugenics or not, you are currently serving as devil's advocate to the argument. You can fall back on the fact that you don't 'really believe any of this' all you like, but don't argue it in the next breath as if you did.
You either give equal value to the life of the elderly as that you award a child or you do not. So, do you or not? I don't speak for you; you're just vague.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners
You'd better read my original post and not put words on my mouth.
Aurinkohirvi 1 year ago
@Aurinkohirvi You are taking on authority the assumption that the meaning of life would be to provide a more stable life for new life. If we must kill to make room for new life, then whatever humanitarian purposes eugenics are supposed to serve are nullified. How can one approach a concept for the greater good if it involves murder? What humanitarian action would not be nullified by murder?
The elderly are entitled to the lives they are still living, as a new child would be to his own.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners
Yes, kids will affect to the next generation. So will adults. It's all about affecting to the people who follw the current population.
I do not support eugenics. I'm just saying killing old people is not eugenics, as it does not affect to the population gene pool!
Aurinkohirvi 1 year ago
@Aurinkohirvi Kids are not the current generation, but the next. They do not reproduce in the current generation just as grandmothers do not. A eugenicist assumes that the meaning of life would be to reproduce, and yet if we are to kill off our elderly, we are working to sustain our means to work. This would lead to a non-fulfilling life. I suggest if you support eugenics to kill yourself as a means of demonstration.A dead person cannot reproduce, and thus does not change the current generation.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners
Grandmas in generally do not reproduce, so killing them is not eugenics. Kids have a chance to reproduce when they grow up.
Eugenics is selective. It aims to change the future generations genetic material. Killing grandmoters does not do that.
Aurinkohirvi 1 year ago
@Aurinkohirvi So "old" people don't reproduce. Which imaginary benchmark are you referring to? What is "old"? And thus the slippery slope.
Soon it will be:
Killing children does not change the human species, as they do not reproduce.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago